I am sharing with you an email I received today from Jonathan Cahn, author of The Harbinger, The Ancient Mystery that Holds The Secret Of America’s Future. Rabbi Cahn asked that he be able to answer the questions and concerns I reported yesterday, in an article titled, What To Make of the Harbinger Mystery. I’ve posted his email in its entirety:
Rabbi Jonathan Cahn:
When any book or message, which appears outside the box, as does The Harbinger becomes as popular a bestseller as it has becomes – it invites criticism. The Harbinger has been spreading across the nation – and, of course, criticism has come That doesn’t make the criticism valid – and in this case, such criticism has gotten more and more bizarre as time goes on. I will be glad to answer it:
Question: Why infer that God is giving extra-biblical revelation, when the Bible was given once and for all to the saints?
Answer: The Harbinger doesn’t state that God is giving extra-biblical revelation – unless one believes that God is unable to lead us, correct us, or warn us – The Harbinger does say that God is able to do all that, individually, and nationally. If God can judge a nation, He can also warn a nation. To say otherwise, I would say is unbiblical.
Concern: Israel is not America, and God did not make a covenant with us, nor are we the apple of His eye.
Answer: The Harbinger never says Israel is America or that God made a covenant with us. It does say that the Puritans, America’s founders established America after the pattern of ancient Israel and saw themselves in covenant with God – But it is never said that God made a covenant with America. Whether He has honored their prayers and consecration is left an open question.
Question: Is the publisher pronouncing Rabbi Cahn a foretelling prophet?
Answer: I don’t know what the publisher is pronouncing with regard to that, but the issue is not what the publisher says, but what The Harbinger reveals.
Question: What else has the publisher put out there?
Answer: Not very relevant. A book is not written by a publisher, but by its author.
Question: Does Rabbi Cahn draw from extra-biblical, mystical writings as his sources?
Answer: No. I only draw on one source for spiritual truth – the Bible. I only believe the Bible is the Word of God. One may use quotes in writing from a variety of sources – but this is not to be confused with relying on any source for spiritual truth – apart from the Bible.
Question: One critic said that since The Harbinger speaks of mysteries being revealed – does this have to do with Gnostic beliefs?
Answer: A very confused view. Unless we want to call the apostle Paul a Gnostic, since he also spoke of mysteries. It’s precisely the opposite. The Gnostics believed in knowledge that was to be kept secret, to stay a mystery. God is the One who reveals mysteries. The Harbinger does likewise – it reveals mysteries.
If there are no mysteries, then we know everything there is to know. But we don’t. And God, by His Spirit, is to lead us to continual insight, and show us things we don’t yet know. That’s the opposite of Gnosticism.
Question: It is stated that Jonathan Cahn “says that Zohar, an extrabiblical, mystical source from which the occultic and mystical Kabbalah is derived, greatly influenced his writing.
Answer: Unfortunately this kind of statements represents some of the extreme and bizarre opposition to The Harbinger – It is an extreme false accusation.
No. I have never in my life said that the Zohar has greatly influenced my writing – nor has it ever. What this accusation is taken from and twisted out of recognition from – Is that I have in some special teachings shared quotes found in the rabbinic writings which unwittingly bear witness of the truth of the Gospel – things that most Jewish people have no idea of – such as Isaiah 53 being about the Messiah, or God being Three in One, Messiah dying for our sins, or a connection made between the mercy of God and the word “Golgotha.” These things can be used to share the Gospel. This has been a standard method of apologetics and evangelism for ages. Rabbinical writings, mystical or otherwise, have been quoted for ages, in Bible commentaries, apologetics, works such as The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah, etc. To take this and then present it as if I or any Christian pastor or scholar is a secret follower of such things because they used a quote to bear witness of the Gospel is, as, one minister friend of mine would say – shameful at best. It should not have even appeared in print.
The apostle Paul actually quoted from a pagan hymn to Zeus in order to share the truth of the Gospel at Mars Hill. If we were to then to accuse him of being into Zeus worship, or that pagan writings were behind the epistles, or accuse of him of being secretly pagan – I would think we would need to repent. It’s called bearing false witness.
Question: Does The Harbinger say that Isaiah is prophesying of America
Answer: No. It says Isaiah is prophesying of Israel – But that the same biblical template, pattern, and progression of judgment that took place in the last days of Israel, is now again manifesting in America.
Question: Why were the revelations of The Harbinger presented in the form of a narrative?
Answer: The Harbinger contains many and deep revelations – By putting it into a narrative, it makes it very easy to read and understand – That the word would go out to as many people as possible.
Question: What is The Harbinger actually saying?
Answer: Very simple. God judges nations. God warns of judgment. God is able to warn a nation of judgment in a way that is consistent with that which is found in the Bible. And that now the same biblical pattern, progression, and signs of national judgment that appeared in the last days of ancient Israel, are now manifesting to America. And that these signs are appearing in uncanny, eerily precise manifestations.
The Harbinger is not only the revealing of these biblical mysteries or connections, but is a call to repentance, salvation, and revival.
Question: What has the overall response been?
Answer: The Harbinger has overwhelmingly been endorsed, praised, recommended, and heralded throughout the evangelical world, and across the denominational spectrum, from Baptist to Charismatic, from Pat Boone to Pat Robertson, from pastors, to ministry leaders, to Bible teachers and deans of theological seminaries, people who obviously know the Bible and proper biblical hermeneutics. People are getting saved, coming to repentance, starting prayer groups and movements, being convicted of holiness.
Question: What do you think the opposition comes from?
Answer: There are ministries that set themselves look for error. This can provide a useful and important service for the body. But the problem is the downside – that the propensity to raise the sword, to quickly reject, to seek to find error (even when it’s not there) and to attack almost reflexively can become as much an error, a problem, and a danger as those who too readily accept teachings without questioning. The Harbinger is unique and doesn’t have much of a precedent – It appears as something very much out of the box. And then there’s the spiritual realm. If something is being used to affect many for revival, and repentance, and breakthrough, we have to expect that there will be opposition and misunderstanding, even by those meaning well.
The claims as even seen here, have grown increasingly bizarre and removed from the reality of The Harbinger. It’s a good sign. For that reason alone it would argue that something powerful is happening here
Question: Why do you think The Harbinger has become so phenomenally successful?
Answer: I have no doubt that it’s because the message is from the Lord. Before it even came out, I knew it would go forth to touch many lives because of it. It reveals things that believers have felt in their hearts but without the evidence to back it up. It reveals a biblical mystery of specific template of judgment that is now playing out in America, before our eyes, lying behind everything from 9/11 to the crash of Wall Street, biblical harbingers of judgment appearing in New York City, Washington, D.C., involving some of the highest of American leaders, the replaying of an ancient drama of judgment, even giving exact dates. People have described it in such terms as “stunning,” “mind blowing,” and “life changing.” And it is not only that, but that it is a call for repentance, revival, and salvation.
For all that, and even for the kind of opposition it’s gotten alone, the reader owes it to himself or herself to read it and see if this is, what most who have read it, believe it is, an urgent word that is given for such a time as this.
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Wow… seems like avoidance, twisting and the worst? Comparing himself with Paul and his book to equal status with God….
Cahn slying says, The Harbinger doesn’t STATE that God is giving extra-biblical revelation.
I DON’T KNOW what the publisher is pronouncing with regard to that, (CAHN A FORETELLING PROPHET) but the issue is not what the publisher says, but what The Harbinger reveals.
REALLY?? ANY AUTHOR HAS SAY SO ABOUT EVERY WORD THAT GOES ON THE COVER, HE HAD TO APPROVE IT.
IF SOMEONE CALLS ME A PROPHET, I’M GOING TO EMPHATICALLY INSIST, “HOLD UP RIGHT THERE, TAKE THAT OFF NOW”!!!
I only draw on one source for spiritual truth – the Bible. One may use quotes in writing from a variety of sources…SO IT’S O.K. TO QUOTE THE FALSE….? IS THAT WHAT WE SHOULD DO IN CHURCH AS PASTOR? “USE QUOTES” FROM THE KABBALAH’S ZOHAR???? LIKEN GOLGATHA TO A gOD GULGATHA?
HE COMPARES HIMSELF TO PAUL? AN INSPIRED WRITER OF GOD’S WORD?
One critic said that since The Harbinger speaks of mysteries being revealed – does this have to do with Gnostic beliefs?
Answer: A very confused view. Unless we want to call the apostle Paul a Gnostic, since he also spoke of mysteries. It’s precisely the opposite. The Gnostics believed in knowledge that was to be kept secret, to stay a mystery.
God is the One who reveals mysteries. THE HARBINGER LIKEWISE – it REVEALS MYSTERIES.
(wow… he just compared his book to God)
If there are no mysteries, then we know everything there is to know. But we don’t. (THERE IS ONE PLACE TO FIND WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW, HE MANIPULATES HERE BY SUGGESTING IF WE DON’T BELIEVE HIS MYSTERIES REVEALED, THEN WE ARE ASSUMING WE KNOW EVERYTHING…) And God, by His Spirit, is to lead us to continual insight, and show us things we don’t yet know. That’s the opposite of Gnosticism.
(The Spirit leads us into all truth. And we learn things we don’t know Only if we RIGHTLY divide HIS WORD Rabbi!)
CAHN SAYS: The Harbinger has overwhelmingly been endorsed, praised, recommended, and heralded throughout the evangelical world, and across the denominational spectrum….
Woe to you when all men speak well of you, For so did their fathers to the false prophets. Luke 6:26
You have done exactly what you are accusing Johnathon Cahn of doing. You are manipulating his words and twisting the original meaning. I am sorry you have such a low opinion of something that has helped many people. There is nothing, I repeat nothing, in the book that is perverted. Only those who choose to do so have perverted the actual meaning themselves. The book is very believable…some of the critics are the ones whose views are unbelievable.
Within the first few pages I saw America as exchanging our moral’s from the 50′s and each year there after. We’ve only to see the mast murder of infants this country has committed. In old testament as well as Revalation. I have studied Revalations since 11 years old. This man is not far from what other prophet’s and pastors, John Hagee being the best of this present time.
Of course I’ve seen and heard others through the years. The down fall of this country will happen. The sins of old are now the same thing only in a magnitude that staggers the mind. Lets face it, Americans have turned their back on GOD, No matter what “you reap what you sow”. NO way around it. Whether it’s a Harbringer ( Warning) what will happen or the Revelations Last days, face it. Remember the Roman empire. It fell they had no one to blame but themselves.
I totally believe this generation will see the coming of the CHRIST.
Bottom line: time will tell what the truth of the matter is. God will reveal whether true or false. I am tending to think that there are enough “red flags” to be wary of this book. I think we can see enough other signs of America being abandoned by God to really need this information even IF true. I think the nation of America would have to do a whole LOT of repenting to be saved as a nation.I don’t realy see this book as relevant.
Man oh man are people as blind and so stupidly self rightious that when the FACTS and TRUTH is put before their very eyes to see the light of day…. they just go completely brain-dead. Well as for their excuse they want to play blame on anything but themselves. Sadly ALL of America will pay the price & althought we all already are in a clear and present danger, satan continues to block the unbeliever from seeing the truth. He is the ultimate deceiver of truth. People wake up and see what you see and simply compare what the bible tells you. God is showing you who He is and what he has done in the past so… you will see the truth of who his is and who we are to HIM and what will happen to us if we continue to turn our backs on him. He will allow us to fall. How hard is it to believe what you see what is happening here and happened before us?
The answer is to except God as your creator and Jesus Christ As Your Lord and Savior, Repent from evil and bring The leader’s that have the rightious Godly moral values to lead our country as the Godly Nation we were designed to be in the first place. Try it and see what changes will come about and if its Good then You will know the Truth! What have you got to lose for doing what is GOOD and RIGHT should be easier and less painful of where our future is headed if you dont. Even if you dont know God, it may be just the chance to change your life for the good and be free from a very painful end! One that is everlasting.
Annette, calling others blind because they don’t agree that Cahn is a prophet, I’m not sure I see any Biblical basis. I do understand that God does do things many times in similar fashions, however, that doesn’t mean we are to misappropriate scripture written for Israel, and pretend like somehow America had a covenant with God.
Believers have a covenant with God, and as for righteous godly leaders, I believe that time has long since passed.
Rabbi Cahn may be gifted, but I do not agree that this “teaching” is coming from the Lord. Prove all things, hold fast to that which is good.
God is our protector, if we are His. What we need to be sharing with people is the gospel. THAT is what will change people in the long run, and make a difference. This book… no….
I agree. Very well put!
Sarah’s daughters,
No man is without error save Christ and Christ alone so don’t expect any author to be perfect. You are already going somewhere other than the Word of God to gain some insight, some knowledge and now you fault him for what? being a sinful man. What do we need to define what that means?
Gary’s message is better than most out there these days. Few preach repentance. Few warn of the coming doom and make no mistake doom is coming but few will recognize it. Few point anymore to the Cross upon which our Savior bore our sins in His own flesh and put them to death there. Therefore I commend him on his effort.
Most will preach peace peace and prosperity in the things of this world and that of course of your own making by your own efforts and if you fail its your own fault or in some cases it’s because there is some spirit of unbelief among you that you must purge before you will experience all of God’s blessings. It is in this way the murder of born again believers in Christ Jesus will be justified. Yes the one doing the killing will see themselves doing God a service and ridding the earth of you.
But this is the road you were called to walk isn’t it? If the world hated me they will hate you also. Pick up your Cross and follow me he says. Yes pick up that foolish notion that God would actually become a man in every way except without sin and die for you in your place and take God’s wrath upon himself on your behalf. Yes walk that path. Proclaim it, live it, carry about the dying of the Lord Jesus in your very flesh that you would no longer live for the flesh lusting after the things of this world but rather live for the Glory of God in submission to the Whole Gospel of Christ Jesus.
You know there is none good, no not one for only God Himself is good. Only one is good, Only One, the only Begotten of the Father full of truth and grace and Is Truth. For The Word had become Deed, and we were redeemed and this not for our sakes but for His Glory, for His name’s sake. We should let this rule us and trust not our own feelings and instead fill our speech with grace seasoned with salt. What will your anger accomplish? Is this what fills your heart? I don’t say this because I don’t know, I do know for it fills my heart too. But it is God’s work so pray to God pray God would open our eyes to the truth of what we are and what we are doing and what He had to do because of that and also that He would change our hearts and that we would repent. We so desperately need to repent. How can we look left and right when we must look up to heaven to the one we ourselves will have to give an account.
God help us.
Read John 7:40-44
Some of the people thought Christ was a prophet. Others thought he was the Christ.
Still others thought that because he came from Galilee that he could not have descended from David or have come from Bethlehem. So there was a division among the people. Those who knew the truth that he was born in Bethlehem and was of the house of David could discern that he was the Christ. We must know the Word and look at the facts and dates to see the revelation of God. I thank Rabbi Cahn for revealing to us what was right before our very eyes.
You clearly got it, Rabbi/Pastor Cahn is blessed with much wisdom and the gift of teaching. God works thru people that allow him in their lives & HE protects those who obey and follow his Commandments.
Wow… the Bible and the Holy Spirit is to be what reveals the truth to you, the Word of God is truth, not Mr. Cahn. Heb 5:12-14
Mary Ellen – The Bible has revealed to us by patterns of God’s character towards nations who are disobedient, towards individuals who are disobedient, towards murderous and idolatrous people, what is in store for them.
This is not a new mystery revealed. It is a mystery however. A mystery that people do not test the spirits as we are told, and do not prove all things. Parallels can be made with a lot of passages in God’s Word, along with the parallels Jonathan makes with the Zohar (Kabballah), regarding Gulgata (demonic god) and Golgatha. We can parallels in life, and in all sorts of books, but this does not make them a prophecy from God.
Are you now suggesting Rabbi Cahn is a prophet? If so, test his prophecies, he must be 100% correct.
If you really want to know who Jonathan Cahn is, and what source drives his theological mystical views, I strongly urge you to log onto the following website:
deceptioninthechurch.com. On the home page, click on the book reviews tab.
On the next page, click on the letter “H”. When you reach the section labled “H”
you will see various articles on the Harbinger. Click on the article ‘THE ZOHAR, THE KABBALAH, & THE HARBINGER BY BERIT KJOS. IN CAHN’S OWN WORDS, Mr. Kjos presents DIRECT, INDISPUTABLE, EVIDENCE providing the reader insight into Cahn’s Mystical Theology. MAKE SURE YOU LISTEN TO THE VIDEO “THE ZOHAR SPEAKS”. This video clip of 6:41 secs is the SMOKING GUN that Mr. Cahn does not want the world to see. It is not an OPTICAL ILLUSION BECAUSE THE LENS OF A CAMERA DON’T LIE.
The Harbinger is not based on SOUND ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY.
It is a blend of mysticism camouflaged with sciptural passages. If you doubt me, then read it for yourself from the book The Harbinger pages 240 & 242.
In addition to the above, read a letter written to THE BEREAN CALL by a former associate pastor of Cahn. His name is Mr. Robert Scarpati. He shares some very intricate details regarding Cahn’s persona. Just click on his name.
Anyone who believes that the Harbinger’s theology is based SOLELY on the INERRANT WORD OF GOD IS BEING SUBJECTED TO A GREAT DELUSION. I should know. I was a former member of Beth Israel. THIS IS NOT ABOUT MINISTRY BASHING. This is exposing the fact that Jonathan Cahn for many years has been dabbling with cultic, mystical, Hebrew writings such as the Zohar, which has a direct relationship with Kabbalah, to supplement or substantiate his teachings and sermons. THIS IS THE EQUIVALENT TODAY OF CHRISTIANS WHO ATTEMPT TO INTERPRET BIBLICAL PROPHECIES WITH THE QUATRAINS OF NOSTRADAMUS!
I was there many years ago when he preached that sermon, The Zohar Speaks. I was present the night when he said, two times, to the congregation that he believed the Holy Spirit led one of the Rabbinical Sages (Rabbi Simeon Bar Yochi) to write the contents contained within the Zohar which he was preaching about. In other words, that is the same as saying the Zohar and its contents were divinely inspired by the Holy Spirit!
This book, The Harbinger, is being endorsed by such ministries as The 700 Club, Sid Roth, Jim Baker and the entire Messianic movement just to name a few. My dear God, these people must be crazy. Even traditional Jews in Judaism today place no importance on these ancient writings. Why? Because they consider them to be heretical in nature. And the church of Christ is embracing this book The Harbinger with open arms.
Everything that is being shared with you by me ultimately led to my resignation as a member of Beth Israel. If you choose to ignore what I have shared, feel free to do so at your own peril.
THIS IS A REBUTTAL TO QUESTION #6 REGARDING THE CLAIMS THAT JONATHAN CAHN MADE IN REFERENCE TO HIS USE OF THE ZOHAR.
HE CLAIMS THAT HIS WRITINGS WERE NEVER INFLUENCED BY THE TEACHINGS OF THE ZOHAR AND THAT IT IS A COMMON PRACTICE FOR MANY BIBLE SCHOLARS AND APOLOGISTS TO QUOTE SUCH DOCUMENTS TO SUBSTANTIATE THEIR THEOLOGICAL VIEWS. IN OTHER WORDS,THAT THIS IN AND OF ITSELF IS HARMLESS TO SAY THE LEAST.
AS A FORMER MEMBER OF YOUR CONGREGATION, ALLOW ME TO ENLIGHTEN YOU CAHN AND REFRESH YOUR MEMORY.
A FEW YEARS AGO, I WAS PRESENT THE NIGHT YOU PREACHED THE SERMON THE ZOHAR SPEAKS. I HEARD YOU SAY 2 TIMES TO THE CONGREGATION, “LISTEN TO THE RABBIS. THE CONTENTS OF WHICH I AM PREACHING ABOUT WERE PUT THERE BY THE HOLY SPIRIT.” IN OTHER WORDS, THAT IS EQUIVALENT TO DECLARING THE RABBINICAL SAGES OF THE ZOHAR(RABBI SIMEON BAR YOCHI) WERE DIVINELY INSPIRED TO WRITE THE ZOHAR.
THE ZOHAR FALLS UNDER THE CATEGORY OF PSUEDEPIGRAPHA WRITINGS(SEE WIKIPEDIA.COM). WHAT DOES THAT MEAN CAHN? I WILL QUOTE THE FOLLOWING BIBLE SCHOLAR, DISTINGUISHED PROFESSOR OF JEWISH STUDIES AND ARCHAEOLOGY DR. RANDALL PRICE FOR THIS DEFINITION.
IN HIS BOOK “SEARCHING FOR THE ORIGINAL BIBLE, PAGE 136: THE TERM PSUEDEPIGRAPHA LITERALLY MEANS FALSELY ENTITLED. (GOT THAT). IT REFERS TO A COLLECTION OF SOME 63 DOCUMENTS WRITTEN BETWEEN 250BC-200AD BY HELLENISTIC JEWS. EACH BOOK WAS WRITTEN UNDER A PSUEDONYM WHOSE WORK WAS NOT A PART OF THE CANONICAL HEBREW BIBLE. NO PSUEDEPIGRAPHA TEXTS WERE EVER CITED OR EXPLICITLY REFERRED TO BY ANY BIBLICAL AUTHORS” AND I WILL ADD, NOT EVEN BY JESUS HIMSELF!
YOUR CULTIC PRACTICE OF QUOTING THE ZOHAR AND OTHER MYSTICAL JEWISH WRITINGS HAS A DIRECT BEARING IN INFLUENCING YOUR TEACHINGS, SERMONS AND WRITINGS BECAUSE AFTER ALL YOU HAVE TO WRITE THEM OUT BEFORE YOU PRESENT THEM TO YOUR AUDIENCE, RIGHT? THAT IS COMMON SENSE WOULDN’T YOU SAY? INADVERTENTLY YOUR TEACHINGS ARE INFLUENCED BY FRAUDULENT, HERETICAL DOCUMENTS.
ALSO YOUR CULTIC PRACTICE OF INTERPRETING THE SCRIPTURES THROUGH THESE MYSTICAL WRITINGS IS THE EQUIVALENT OF MANY CHRISTIANS WHO TODAY ATTEMPT TO INTERPRET BIBLE PROPHECIES BY USING THE QUATRAINS OF NOSTRADAMUS, ANOTHER FAMOUS MYSTICAL DOCUMENT. WHY NOT USE HIS WRITINGS TO INTERPRET GOD’S INERRANT WORD?
MY FRIENDS AND READERS, AS A FORMER MEMBER OF BETH ISRAEL I SUBMIT THE ABOVE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE TO SUBSTANTIATE THE FACT THAT JONATHAN CAHN HAS BEEN DABBLING WITH CULTIC MYSTICAL HEBREW WRITINGS FOR MANY YEARS AS AN ACT OF HERESY AGAINST GOD’S INERRANT WORD!
AS STATED ABOVE, JONATHAN CAHN IN QUESTION #6 ADVOCATES THAT IT IS HARMLESS TO QUOTE THE ZOHAR TO SUBSTANTIATE HIS THEOLOGICAL VIEWS. LET ME SHARE WITH YOU SOMETHING THAT EXPOSES HOW DANGEROUS THIS KIND OF REASONING IS. I MAKE THE FOLLOWING QUOTE FROM BOB LARSON’S BOOK PAGES 291-292 “LARSON’S BOOK OF WORLD RELIGIONS & ALTERNATIVE SPIRITUALITY.
“AT THE CORE OF JEWISH MYSTICISM IS THE PRACTICE OF ESOTERIC DISCIPLINES THAT TAP INTO SECRET WISDOM THAT CAN INVOLVE ASCENT TO AND UNITIVE EXPERIENCES WITH THE DIVINE REALM. CONTEMPORARY TEACHERS SAY THE EMPHASIS OF THE ZOHAR/KABBALAH SHOULD BE ON PUTTING IT’S PRINCIPLES INTO ACTION RATHER THAN WORRYING ABOUT THEOLOGY AND THE NATURE OF GOD. AND AS IS OFTEN THE CASE WITH NEW AGE RELIGIONS, THE EMPHASIS IS ON WHAT’S IN IT FOR US. IN THE CASE OF THE ZOHAR/KABBALAH, IT’S PROMOTERS CLAIM IT WILL BRING PEOPLE PEACE, JOY, AND FULFILLMENT WITHOUT ANY WORRIES ABOUT MORAL CODES LIKE THE 10 COMMANDMENTS” end of quote.
ONE PROPHECY HELPS CONFIRM ANOTHER
2Peter 1:20 reads: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scriptures is of ANY PRIVATE INTERPRETATION.
Dr. George Lamsa in his commentary of the New Testament page 512 offers the following comments for this passage. “One prophecy helps to explain and sustain another. That is to say, the prophet Jeremiah, who lived many years after Isaiah, was in a position to confirm and explain Isaiah’s prophecies because some of the events predicted were taking place in his day. And what Jeremiah predicted, was confirmed by prophets who followed after him. Thus, all prophecies are bound together. One helps to explain another, because all are derived from the same DIVINE SOURCE”
(not the ZOHAR MR. CAHN)!
Another perfect example in scripture which proves that the biblical authors used scripture to interpret scripture is found in Mathew 4: 1-11 & Luke 24:25-27.
Anyone who believes Jonathan Cahn’s ABSURD EXPLANATIONS to the questions he answered deserves to be locked up in a mental ward.
WOW you are so far off the point of issue that you are only confussing yourself more that you already are.
keep it Simple because it seem that you have some problem with understanding or processing information. Take it easy dear, just take a deep breath of fresh air & call your DR. (: We’ll all be praying for your speedy recovery
Annette – Eph 4:14-16 comes to mind when I read your manner of speech to other who don’t see it the same, you might also consider, Tit 2:7-8, and 2 Tim 2:22-26 , or maybe Col 4:5-6, or even Eph 4:32.
LEGNA, thanks for sharing your experience. Your comments deserve consideration, and further investigation into what Zohar is (as most of Christians are unfamiliar with the teachings).
Dear Ms. Spreeman: Thank you for the privilege of sharing this valuable and timely information with your audience.
For a more in-depth study into Jonathan Cahn’s Kabbalistic Theology, log onto the following website: carm.org/zohar-The Zohar & carm.org/what is Kabbalah?
IMPORATNT NOTICE: ON AUGUST 2ND, 2012 THE BEREAN CALL ANNOUNCED THE NEWLY RELEASED BOOK: THE HARBINGER: FACT OR FICTION BY
AUTHOR DAVID JAMES. IN THIS BOOK, MR. JAMES DOES AN IN-DEPTH CRITICAL ANALYSIS OF MR. CAHN’S BOOK EXPOSING IT’S MAJOR THEOLOGICAL AND HISTORICAL FATAL FLAWS. THE BOOK WILL SOON BE AVAILABLE AT AMAZON.COM BUT IF YOU WANT TO ORDER IT NOW LOG ONTO: thebereancall.org.
One more important piece of information needs to be shared. Notice how Mr. Cahn’s dvd documentary is WORDED. Isaiah 9:10 Judgement: A Biblical Prophecy
DECODED by Jonathan Cahn. The WORD DECODED is Kabbalistic terminolgy! For the evidence to SUBSTANTIATE these claims watch the documentary: DECODING THE PAST-SECRETS OF THE KABBALAH (2009) presented by THE HISTORY CHANNEL(45MINS) ON YOU TUBE.
The Harbinger is based upon Mr. Cahn’s Kabbalistic Theology.
Important update:
The video ‘THE ZOHAR SPEAKS” was recently removed from myspace.com. As stated earlier,this video was the smoking gun which Mr. Cahn does not want the world to see. This proves to me and anyone with common sense that Mr. Cahn will stop at nothing to remove any evidence that will prove he has been DABBLING WITH HEBREW MYSTICAL WRITINGS for many years! Mr. Cahn, if you have nothing to hide, like you stated above in your interview, put the 6:45 min video up again, and let the Body of Christ make that judgment call. It’s our right as believers to test all things
1Thes 5:21. You are in essence denying the Body of Christ that God given right. And one day God is going to hold you accountable for doing so. Shame on you!
When the Democrat National Convention produced the tribute to the
United States Military and its’ Vetrans using a commanding view of Russian
War ships and Turkish Air force fighter jets! With Commander-In-Chief
Obama holding key to access any USA MIL PHOTOGRAPHY.
What more profound HARBINGER, to coming destruction, do fools need?
Respectfully,
Honey, E6, Ret
This is a book that I think is God inspired. I am a Christian and want to thank you so much for writing this book and putting voice to what I have felt for a very long time. I thought of Amos 3:7 I think that the Holy Spirit moved you to write, what I think is a big wake up call to the people of America. A country that WAS founded on Christian principles. May God bless you Rabbi Cahn and your family.
I have read the book in debate, also have watched the rabbi on several programs, both I have enjoyed, and also recommended the book to my pastor, which he read and then our church did a book reading and discussion. First, understand, that I read the book knowing it was written in fiction, referencing the similarities and possible duplication found in Isaiah. And we can not deny the same arrogance of man, whether thousands of years ago or today!
Second, I do not consider him a prophet, maybe knowledgeable, for I believe we have not had any prophets since the Bible, but the day comes ,the Two Witnesses! Though many hail him as a prophet, that is when we must try and prove, if from God! Look at all the false doctrines that storm the airwaves! Tried and proved false, only His truths withstand the tests!
Third, the following crisis’ in America that coincide with Israel, is remarkable if you think about it . If we are going to say God is in control, then we also have to believe God is in control!
By no means do I believe America is considered “ Israel”, or the covenants made were made with us. I do believe we are grafted into , yet we have forsaken all things Jewish! We have been adopted and the promises are ours also, for we are the Lords! Yet division separates us in the faith, also our nation. Let us not continue in division, but strive together in faith as one with the One and True God.
I enjoy his speaking engagements, because he does explain the Jewish side, the festivals, the meaning and the reason! That which is not taught in our churches! He explained the Jewish wedding, and how it is the exact story of Christ, the Groom, returning for his bride! Which we realize, that the Bible is all about Christ Jesus, so are the festivals’, he also explains several of the mysteries, which also Christ is the subject.
I also don’t believe that God made a covenant with America, but America made a covenant with God, and we are held to it! Just as we partake in the nations blessings, the judgments of the nation we will suffer also!
Let’s face it, this world needs the LORD, people are so hungry for God, they are searching high and low, for anything they can get their hands on, enters in the unholy one, he waters down the truth, he twists the truth, changes the truth, and multitudes believe the lies! No one tests and proves, just blindly follows! This author/rabbi, may have started out revealing truths, but the praises of man scratched his itchy ears, is that not the downfall of man! Look at all the TV and radio preachers, with great multitudes of followers , followers seeking God, truly seeking God, only to be deceived! They have turned the “house of prayer” into a “den of thieves” . The flocks pray, see nothing of their prayers, and are told they need to plant seeds, then God will answer. They hand over their “seed money”, and prayers still go unanswered! And so seeing that they have tested and proved false, they still blindly follow! Called to be the salt of the earth, but I fear we have lost our flavor!
Rather than debate each other, we need to arise in His light, and share the truth, we need to truly find the truth, live, experience and share it! Rather than build up or destroy our fellow man, we should be building up the Kingdom of God. But how can we be Kingdom people if we are about the worlds business! For the world is in us! We must come out from her! It is written that great and mighty things we will do in his name, signs and wonders, yet it seems this died with the early church! It is also written that in the end days, even the elect, believers, will be deceived, for the unholy one will do great and mighty things , the things the church should have been doing all along, but fell asleep, the very things that we the church have been praying but not seeing, yes, the unholy one has slowly crept in, we have fallen asleep, and he will deceive the multitudes. All the while, we the church, walk divided, complaining amongst ourselves, rather than being about our Father’s business, encouraging, loving, helping, lifting up one another. Instead of us reasoning together, learning from each other , teaching each other, we fall back on the easy, and criticize, condemn and find fault. Imagine, if we were empowered like the early church, Jew and Gentile, the world would be almost Heaven like!
I pray for all, that his truth over powers us, that we, his children, will stretch out our hands in his truth, peace, love and power, gathering unto Him, ourselves and those brought into his fold, that all are saved, that not one perishes. I pray for Israel, Gods protection and His peace. The day is coming, our redemption is nigh, LOOK UP! WAKE UP!
Rather than continue to walk contrary to his divine word, let us join together, reason with each other, and learn the truth, together! We agree that the Bible is God’s Word, God inspired! Yet we have separated from the Jewish side of our belief, we solely rely on the interpretation in front of us, not searching or researching, nor taking into consideration the Jewish knowledge of the same book! The Holy Spirit reveals so many things, yet different, to each of us, that is why it is written, that we are to fellowship with each other, believers! That we would grow in knowledge! Maybe, just maybe, had we never parted in the Faith, the Jews would have believed sooner in Christ our Lord, and today, instead of war and rumors of war, we all would be experience Heaven here on Earth, as is His will!
In closing, the Harbinger, may or may not be God inspired, it is thought provoking, people are reading it, considering it and are even opening their Bible’s! Written mingling the past with the present and warning of the future that is doomed, if we do not return to God! As history has shown us, walking away from, contrary to and also defiantly against, God, mankind suffers! Divided we suffer! God does not want us to suffer, his will for us is that of good! But walking with the father of this world brings suffering! And as long as we continue to walk divided, we shall suffer! So, let us puts aside religion, mans interpretations, ways and means, and come together as God’s people, on common ground, the God we worship is the same God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and come to the knowledge of Christ Jesus! And experience them, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, aas our Father intended! We need to become One with the One and True God, Jehovah!
Luann, Your reply is so true and resonates in me. I dont understand the statement about “the Rabbi” and his having itchy ears. I feel we really need to pray for him. He has been given powerful teachings that seem to be right on. And as far as the ever watching faultfinders re. Jonathan Cahns book, and every ministry out there they take issue with….I am as concerned about them as the greedy “send me your seed and I’ll save the world” ministers. Instead of ‘watchmen on the wall’, they are more like ‘buzzards in the trees’. Watching for any word or phrase that doesnt line up with their theology. I know we need to be ever watchful but, as you put it, they are dividing the body of Christ and we need desperately to be one in JESUS. And I dont mean one with the wolves…or the buzzards. Your said it very,very well. Thank you, Carole
We are to be united in the doctrine of Christ —the doctrine of Christ is taught as Jesus said, in the Law, Psalms, & Prophets (Luke 24), and then reinforcing the fact that this is so & widening the scope so as to include the New Testament as being included in the full Scripture all being concerned with the doctrine/testimony of Christ —you have Paul to the Ephesian elders in Acts 20 (I did not neglect the teaching of the full counsel…) and the elect angel rebuking John in Revelation 19:10.
—– We are to test & prove all things. 1 John 4; 1 Thessalonians 5, Ephesians 5 —–that is not illegitimately finding fault.
I Corinthians teaches us to beware following men rather than the Word.
The movers and shakers among the emergents & false teachers constantly play on experience & existential measures rather than reasoning from the Word which is the only way an error can be revealed by doctrine & theology. It is necessary to know the full counsel, the doctrines & theology —or to be under the tutelage of those who do & learning from them with an open Bible in our local called out assemblies (visible churches by biblical definition). The spiritual Body of Christ ‘church’ is invisible & known surely only of Christ. —-If we refuse this covering & armor under Christ & the Word individually, or as assemblies —-we can be easily led astray, confused, disarmed & devoured.
One of the marks of the Father of Confusion and the current divisions & false ecumenical unity movement as we are seeing the great falling away —- is to call good evil & evil good —lovers haters & haters lovers —unifiers in the doctrine of Christ dividers of the body and so forth —- They love to divide & conquer for the purpose of achieving their own unbiblical & ungodly agendas while giving the appearance of unifying.
Sometimes even the ‘good guys’ fall to being useful dupes to this purpose. These are trying times….but we’re not desperate, and we don’t have to react violently.
Always with these people works are emphasized & grace confused… Knowledge is mocked & denigrated —signs & wonders elevated (but do a study on what the Bible says about signs & wonders in the last days). Beware of mysticism & out of context prophesying —–it is not always easy to distinguish between legitimate spirituality & illegitimate superstition.
Mr. Cahn is selling books —-as well as some of the people who are calling for caution regarding his book who support their work in that manner, while many who are calling for caution are pastors & others who have no financial or positional gain to be made.
A sign that an issue is not biblical is when we have a strong emotional reaction to it, but not solid biblical & doctrinal reason why …the waters of Siloam are not the floods of the world. Isaiah 8. And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 2 Corinthians 10.
We might claim a loose, or shadow of a prophecy regarding the Jews to be applied to the churches or Body of Christ —–but there is a distinction, and Mr. Cahn’s signs break down when closely examined. It’s dangerous when folks get an idea & then shoe-horn Scripture to fit —that’s what Warren & all these other guys are doing. Many of them might be ignorant of their error —-but that doesn’t change the reality or the outcome.
And if new prophecy (not teaching & forth-telling, but actual fore-telling) is permitted when Jude plainly teaches the faith once delivered, and we’re warned of false gospels so plainly in Galatians, and the closing words of Revelation also tell us the canon is closed & complete—-the end is a loss of assurance regarding what any text is saying, allegorism runs amock and the simplicity of Christ & plain meaning of any text is lost.
America is neither the church nor the Jews—-America, as a nation, is part of the Roman co-mingled kingdoms. Romans 1 better applies to us. And our task is the same as it has always been —-take the Gospel to whosoever will receive it —that is the Word of God. When people have the Word of God accurately translated in their own language —-the Holy Spirit does the sorting & interpreting, one human heart & soul relating with Him at a time.
oops…my apologies: scratch 2 Corinthians 10 above & insert 1Cr 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
Give Legna a break & do not treat her with the mockery that the world ‘scientists’ treat biblical chronology & narrative supporting Creationist scientists without checking out the claims.
She speaks truth —and is supported not only with Psalm 19 & John 1 & Romans 1 -2 factual & forensic truth witnessing to the Word from the Creation & men’s God-given conscience (trace of being created in the image of God despite the Fall) —–but also by the doctrine of the Word itself.
The mysticism & ungodly drunkenness that is infecting the churches through existential & experiential feelings, urges & so forth —–untested rationally by the Word— is extremely dangerous. Our faith is not blind. 1& 2 Peter. See Deuteronomy 29:29, Isaiah 8, Ezekiel 8. Examine the manner in which Jezebel’s priests of Baal behaved as compared with Elijah. See Ephesians 5 on drunken-ness and the Spirit.
Historically, post-canon, you can also trace this devilish influence through those of the Alexandrian & Eastern ‘Fathers’ of the Roman churches that drew in doctrines of demons by dialoguing with pagan gurus, adopted their cosmic narrative (evolutionary) of creation & history & human nature (sexual drive force & fertility worship) & ‘disciplines’ (see what Jesus said about these disciplines of prayer & so forth in Matthew 6) and entered into mind-altering asceticism & so forth. (see what Jesus said further concerning this at Matthew 23:1-11; and also see 1 Timothy 4)
This slight skew at the beginning widened—-and it resulted in Inquisitions from a false, visible, illegitimately ‘unified’ & universal ‘Church’ that murdered the brethren arguing from Scripture, organized according to the apostolic model of church polity, & separating peacefully after warning & marking as Scripture calls us to do. God permitted denominations as men responded to His Word —in fact, they are what He instructed. —-Look carefully at Romans 16, 2 Corinthians 6 & 11.
The blood began to flow —beginning with Augustine of Hippo’s ‘pogroms’, sending out Roman generals to massacre North African churches; Augustine of Canterbury using politically converted Saxons to wipe out the brethren at Bangon who held to local autonomy with fellowship freely determined by biblical doctrine —-all because they wouldn’t bow to the god-man pope’s authority! —-and Dominic Guzman and Innocent III massacreing the entire city of Beziers for the same reason…. Who has time here to go into the anabaptist persecutions, Geneva, the Dominicans sending native Americans against the ‘heretic’ Huegenot in Florida or the Jesuits sending native Americans against the ‘heretic’ Puritans of New England? —but they all happened & can be learned of by those who go to source documents & the Bible to measure & test the interpretations.
The endtimes ‘unity’ is a global ecumenical Harlot, & the way that is strait and narrow will never be the majority —-do we really want to go there? There’s a reason that John was so stunned & amazed when he saw ‘her’.
See also James 4:4. —— We follow Christ, and He is our Head. If the ‘unction’ of the Spirit that we think we ‘feel’ intuitively conflicts with the plain Word of God —–Houston, we have a problem.
And we women must take particular care about this, being the more susceptible to influencing spirits.
TRUE discernment is so needed in the church… it’s like the body with an under or over sensitive immune system. At both ends of the scale is are those that do not check anything but go by their feelings (it’s all god) then at the other end are people thinking they are God’s Sheriff in town, but are really operating in suspicion and cynicism. We need a “LOVE” of the truth!!! In 2 Thessalonians it says some fell away because they didn’t receive a Love of the Truth and God gave them over to a delusion! In acts, however, we have the Bereans!!! Paul commended them, as being MORE noble than the Thessalonians, when, after ministering to them, they check in the scriptures to see in what Paul was saying was true. He wasn’t offended, that they checked, he commended them… Their motive was pure, not cynical. They wanted to see if it was true because they had a love of the truth, not because they wanted to disprove him, as I say, “cynically”. The Lord looks at the motives of the heart! Scripture has to be the final authority. Jesus said to The Father in John 17:17 “your word is truth” – if we have a love of the truth -The word of The Lord and The Lord of the word (Jesus Christ) we will become MATURE!!! holding to what is good and rejecting what is evil. 1 Thessalonians 5:19-22. May The Lord temper us all and grow us up – Remember, one of the main supernatural things, The Holy Spirit does is that “He will lead you in all truth”
This book by Jonathon Cahn was the basis of a Bible Study recently in our religious institution of man (church), led by a woman who ascribes to the teachings of the Hebrews Roots Movement. I do not believe she is aware of Mr. Cahn’s references to the Jewish Zohar or Kabala in his public teachings. One woman in this church claimed that the Kabala is another valuable tool of the Jewish religion.
What I have discovered simply is this: many (men and women, and may the LORD forgive us-the children) in this church system are inolved with mysticism-hearing the voice of God apart from our Holy Scriptures. They are following the voices of gnosticism and set themselves apart as the “spiritually elite,” with the rest of us considered as “baby Christians.” This is satan’s system, possibly similar to the Nicolatians which literally means “the conqueror of the people” in Greek. These people who are influenced more by the mystical are more apt to follow any wave of teaching that comes along, including the Kabala, ie. Jewish mysticism, and yoga-fully Hindu whether you are performing the asanas or exercises with or without the transcendal meditation, and believing all of these books written for profit on their experiences to heaven or hell, etc. which are not from God, but from the devil, since none of them line up with God’s Word, these are but a few.
I must caution those believers who choose to call these practices what they are: demonic. You WILL be persecuted by the very same people who confess to follow Jesus. They are following another Jesus visualized in their own imaginations to apease their spiritual pride thus worshipping “the self” which is exactly what the devil desires for all of us. In receiving all of this extra Biblical revelation and worshipping ourselves, we are taking our eyes off of Jesus and His teachings, therefore denying the very Savior that came to set us free from all of this bondage. I used to belong to this movement, but Christ has delievered from this false teachings and the hirelings who promote this…they no longer have power over me. But like I said, they will come after you like ravenous wolves trying to destroy your marriage, your family, your reputation, and the worst, your very soul.
God does not have a convenant with the United States of America, only His chosen people who are scattered throughout the world. God, our Father, is judging every nation, not just America. All of those unsaved sinners out there are already under the wrath of God, so we must remember that God, the Holy Spirit, said that “Judgement begins in the house of the LORD.” I believe He is referencing saved individuals here…..judgement begins with those of us who are saved by grace, through faith in Jesus Christ alone.
And I have to wonder…if the writer is going to write a book about what “God” said, market it and collect a handsome amount of money from it, then is it really “from God.”
I do not recall any of the prophets in Scriptures marketing their prophecies and making a small fortune from it….quite the contrary…..many lost their physical lives. And also, if this book is really from God, then why would an author or publisher threaten to sue any person who exhibits concern over the information being presented?
Our religious institutions of man have sadly become so apostate, that now our false prophets, our false teachers, and our “selves” have more knowledge, wisdom, and worship than our Risen LORD and Savior……God is bidding us to come out of the harlot church system.
I don’t think there is any harm in drawing parallels between what happened to a nation back then to what is happening in America at the moment.
I’m more interested in the message and without doubt that message is for America to ‘Repent’
I don’t get the impression that Jonathan is trying to position himself as the ‘prophet’ for America. However, what the book does is it gets the message out to many. It is a compelling message and one that many many people know to be true.
Jonathan recently reiterated the message on Jan 21 at the President Inaug Prayer Breakfast and his words were not that of someone who is trying to draw attention to himself.
There can be no doubt that Jonathan is a prophet or that he has a prophetic message. Like Elijah, he went and spoke to the king and told him of his wrong ways.
Just the other day Dr Ben Carson added his voice to this prophetic message albeit from his own perspective.
The warning has gone out! The trumpet has been sounded and that’s what matter the most!!
This is a good word! I really don’t understand why some people have such a problem with the message or the messenger. Instead of “putting it on the shelf”. They castigate the warning and the one who is warning us. hmmm, I believe they did this very thing to Jeremiah and Isaiah. Not that I am saying Jonathan Cahn is a Jeremiah or an Isaiah….lest I be called a heretic too.(though he may be a type)
No, there would be no harm to drawing parallels, but when they say it is a secret message meant for us, a prophecy and that it is REAL; then you have to ask yourself, is the Bible sufficient as it says it is? Is it THE Word of God? Is there further prophecy and if so, then you have to look at it as to whether there are errors. There are, and there are plenty and the Biblical admonition for error, even once, with a publishing house-proclaimed prophet like Cahn is to reject their “prophecies” and to NOT listen to them.
Is this what people are doing? No, instead they go share his “prophecies” and rave about how wonderful the message. We castigate the warning and the one who is warning us? Amen! That is what we are to do.
And for those who want to call Cahn’s message a “good word”, you might want to read about what God has to say to them in Jeremiah 23 (look towards the end). Seriously, it’s not a joke to mess around with God’s Word and misappropriate verses meant for Israel (that’s called wrongly dividing God’s Word) and as for “adding to God’s Word”, Proverbs 30:6 is one that Jonathan might read.
Thank-You Holly. You are right on. And I believe there is harm in promoting this novel written by the pen of a man…and the spirit behind it. God does not have a covenant with America, only spiritual Israel and that is all of us who are grafted into the vine through Jesus Christ our LORD. We must remember, Scripture clearly states that there is “neither Jew nor Gentile,” we are one in and through Jesus Christ. His covenant is with the believers….and this is NO SECRET. And all nations are under God’s judgement, not just America. Since we have been indoctrinated that America is a so called christian nation, false prophets have been drawing parallels from the Old Testament Scriptures to the United States, but this is false doctrine. So all of these horrible things that are going on around the world are not under God’s judgement….just America?
It is time that we teach the Scriptures in context ……it is time to open up our Bibles in Bible Study instead of the word of man.
You are right, God has a covenant with all who believe on His name; in that new covenant, there is neither Jew nor Gentile, but in the world, there is most certainly Jew, Gentile, and the Church of God as three separate entities.
“Give no offense, either to the Jews or to the Greeks or to the church of God” (I Cor 10:32)
Although we are grafted in, we do not become Israel, (this is Cahn’s teaching, that we are spiritual Israel) otherwise, it would not make sense when Paul said this, (insert church for Israel),
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Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for the CHURCH is that they may be saved. For I bear them witness that the CHURCH has a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. For the CHURCH being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God.
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We are not yet one with Israel, as the remnant is still left, and have yet to believe in Jesus Christ as their Messiah, as they will, those who finally look upon the one they have pierced.
Only unbelievers are under God’s judgment, as all judgment is committed to Jesus Christ, and all execution of judgment as well. We certainly suffer persecution from the world, and as a fallen and sinful world, we have to deal with repercussions of sin around us.
But the nations themselves, the children of disobedience who shed the blood of the innocents, who rebel against God, who are blinded by the god of this age, I do believe these nations will indeed incur His wrath, in that day, when the Judge, who is standing at the door, opens the first seal, and the judgments begin to fall upon the inhabitants of the earth, all who have not believed.
Jesus said not to call anyone a rabbi (Matthew 23:8), so how an alleged man of God is called so everywhere with his approval? When did shemitah (Dt 15) happen? (apart from the imagination of Jonathan Cahn). Everyone know that the worst stock market was in 1929, not in 2008, as mr Cahn says, clearly said in his 2nd DVD of his set Isaiah 9:10. Also he changes completly the meaning of the word “witness”, which has nothing to do with someone quoting Scripture neither in a dictionary nor in the Bible (Dt 19:15). This book may be used by God, but God does not approve twisting of His Word, and does not approve lies.
There is plenty of Historical proofs, such as documents, showing that the allegedly Christian George Washington was far from Christianity, but a mason (and one must know about masonry to understand how and why he and other founding fathers appeared to be Christians). So, that of the founding of a Christian nation (based on assumptions, a spread belief, and other reasons) may be sound nice and comforting, but is just a pious lie,
I for one would like to thank you for sharing this. I have listened to Jonathan Cahns raccoons for several years and some of the things being circulated since the Harbinger’s release just don’t ring true. He addressed those thing here very well. I realize that people will beeline in the end as they choose to believe, but Cain is a very gifted teacher and I have yet to see or hear him teach any thing that you can’t back up with the Bible.
Well, I have to agree with Legna’s testimony. Why does he call himself a ribbi? Why would he say: “LISTEN TO THE RABBIS”. We are to listen to the Word of God.
Never read the book and not interested in fiction of this sort: It is not TRUTH and is in conflict with the God’s plan of salvation. Turning from our sin only comes AFTER we trust the Gospel of God’s salvation–Jesus Christ, His death Burial and Resurrection. We come getting forgiveness FIRST–then we turn from sin AFTER WE ARE SAVED. No amount of stopping our sin will appease a Holy God from His wrath. The Blood of Christ is the only atonement that can please God and forgive sinners.
If your real name is jonathon than the made up name in the book barack doesnt tie in at all? Explain that