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Is "Jesus Calling" a wrong number? (Book Review)

From time to time people have asked me to review books. I read many for research, and wish I had the time to write reviews that would be worthy of helping someone glean insight. I am glad that there are talented writers with discernment who can help people decide if they want to delve into a book that might introduce ideas that are slightly off the narrow path of biblical doctrine. Over at Steak And Bible, Julia has sent me an excellent review of the very popular book, Jesus Calling: Enjoying Peace in His Presence by Sarah Young. There are some serious concerns to share.

Christians, especially women, are eating this up. As of six months ago the book has sold nearly 3 million copies. There is also a Jesus Calling: 365 Devotions For Kids , Jesus Calling – Teen Edition and the Jesus Calling Devotional Bible under the same franchise, and those are selling like ice cubes in July as well. Here is an excerpt from Julia’s blog. Make sure you read the entire review here:

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Is Deception Calling? A review of Jesus Calling by Sarah Young

…Young writes that “One morning as I prayed, I visualized God protecting each of us. I pictured first our daughter, then our son, and then Steve encircles by God’s protective Presence, which looked like golden light. When I prayed for myself, I was suddenly enveloped in brilliant light and profound peace…”

This sounds very similar to New Age and Occult accounts. Visualization is a popular occult practice because practitioners believe that they can create reality by imagining it into existence. Let Us Reason Ministries and others have warned about the “Christianization” of such practices. Slapping a “Christian” label on a pagan practice does not make it acceptable to God. The Bible actually warns against divination, witchcraft (Deut. 18:10-12) and adopting pagan religious practices (Matt. 6:7 “But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.”)

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70 Responses to “Is "Jesus Calling" a wrong number? (Book Review)”

  1. ali #

    Such a timely article. My daughter only yesterday told me she had received a copy of Jesus Calling and was anxious to read it. I was familiar with God Calling, and was not sure if the two were alike, so I made no comment.

    And now I know they are.

    Thanks for the article.

    July 5, 2012 at 8:13 AM Reply
  2. Cindy #

    Thank you for writing about this book. So many of my friends read it and cling to its words now more than they cling to God's Word. We left a supposed "bible-teaching" church over issues that stemmed from this book. We were deemed "closed-minded" and "legalistic" by that pastor, which we found incredibly sad. The parts of this book that I have read made my skin crawl because they sounded so New Age – Jesus as a "cocoon of light", etc. I pray that the eyes of my friends will be opened to see this for what it is – heresy – and get back to reading the Word of God.

    July 6, 2012 at 1:13 AM Reply
    • Susan #

      Cindy – the very first entry I ever read started with this phrase – "Find your security in God alone!" I also remember things like "Emmanuel, God is with you!" as well as "His Spirit is with you and in you." This is not heresy but very much in accordance with scripture. I don't believe that Jesus Calling is leading people astray – anything that turns someone to his precious word can only draw people closer to his precious kingdom!

      November 14, 2012 at 3:49 PM Reply
    • Hi Cindy. Gods' blessings on you. I listen to a lot of preachers/evangelist and some – even though they are Spirit filled & speaking the truth I must test it in accordance w/ Gods' Word & the Holy Spirit in us. If I feel anything negative, I search it out in Gods' Word & pray. The Holy Spirit search out for you. I don't listen to all men of God or agree w/ them. God made us all in His image & we are all unique. Many books I lay down, for me inspire me. I must be careful not to judge. What doesn't bless me may certainly bless the next guy or gal. A child of God in church today gave testimony. When he finished the book, "JESUS CALLING", many years of nicotine addiction gone. What's good for the goose is not always good for the gander. Numbers 6:24 – 26, "the Lord bless thee, and keep thee: The Lord make thy face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee: the Lord lift up His countenance upon thee, and give thee peace". God bless you. Love in Christ, Samuel.

      March 17, 2013 at 5:26 PM Reply
  3. Susan #

    I've used Jesus Calling as my morning devotion for two years in a row now. I never really paid attention to the intro and was not familiar with her story. What I am familiar with is this – each day leads me to scripture that serves as a daily reminder that Jesus is with me! I am a born again believer in Jesus, and I have developed a closer relationship with him because of the SCRIPTURE that accompanies each entry. God's Word will not return void. It certainly hasn't in my own spiritual walk.

    November 14, 2012 at 3:46 PM Reply
    • Dee #

      I agree with you Susan…. I include with my daily devotions and the scriptures always speak louder than maybe what Sharon Young wrote…

      December 3, 2014 at 12:15 AM Reply
  4. Judy #

    I've used Jesus Calling in devotional time and it always points me to Jesus. I love the references to scripture. God uses a lot of imagery in the scriptures. Just because the enemy chose to copy and misues imagery doesn't mean we throw out all imagery. We need to use discernment.

    November 25, 2012 at 2:46 AM Reply
  5. Mary #

    People are different and should embrace what works for them as long as they are not judging or harming others. Diversity is beautiful. Viewing the world with new eyes can be stimulating.

    December 14, 2012 at 3:46 AM Reply
  6. Jeff #

    Sorry, your "review" is itself heretical. The devotional is a great resource that quite clearly helps millions of readers grow in Jesus. The idea that "visualization" is somehow evil is infantile. Without a vision, the people perish. We all visualize things. As believers we do it in the context of our relationship with Jesus. Pagans also pray and dream. Should we quit those as well?

    January 2, 2013 at 2:26 AM Reply
    • Jeff, your comment has inspired me to post a new article on this topic:
      <a title="Is “Jesus Calling” in your library?" href="http://standupforthetruth.com/2013/01/is-jesus-calling-in-your-library/&quot; rel="bookmark" rel="nofollow">Is “Jesus Calling” in your library?

      January 2, 2013 at 7:23 AM Reply
    • Sharon #

      I know that there are pros and cons to every situation, but I find it discouraging, when Christians decide they can judge. That is the worst example, we can set for our fellow Christians, and esp. non Christians. I read my Bible every day, and I find other sources that help me on my day to day path toward a closer relationship with my Lord and Savior. He walks with me, and talks with me, and I know He is with me. AS I study, I have often kept a journal of my day to day experience that results from my relationship with God. This book is just that, someones journal that reflects their experience with God. The Bible is full of stories that tell of many men and God relationship journeys. I gain from those stories; if God was a help in those days, then surely, He will be my help. To say that this author's stories are "new age", is a judgement. Surely, if the NEGATIVE REVIEW of this book, keeps one person from gaining in their walk with God, then it is worse for one to read this article, than the book, which inspires a closer walk with God. Just for those reading this review, I do need to add one very important fact, not mentioned in the review. EVERY daily devotion is followed by several relevant scripture! We are surrounded by many evils in this world that are clearly evil, and we need to speak against them, but this isn't one of those evils. Let's not waste our time tearing down that which binds us to the ONE that can lift us out of despair! In His Love

      January 11, 2013 at 3:30 PM Reply
      • Howard #

        1corinthians 5:12
        What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?

        January 3, 2014 at 7:21 AM Reply
  7. Janet Williams #

    Jesus Calling is being passed to women in prison as a ministry. Many were lead to the Lord. Sarah simply shares her quiet time with Jesus and shares what Jesus is speaking to her. Following every reading are Scriptures to look up in your Bible. This book helped me tremendously when I went through three years of trial and suffering. It is a kind word, uplifting, and a blessing. I have given cases of this book to women who
    are broken and hurting, and it has blessed them. Jesus is calling each of us to spend time with Him on a daily basis. It is an encouragement for many. I have read my Jesus calling every day after reading my Bible for several years. It always seems to speak to the core of my situation. It is amazing and I would recommend it to anyone who wants to share time with Jesus.

    January 20, 2013 at 2:40 PM Reply
  8. Marie #

    I sat in church pew on Sunday mornings looking at the empty chair placed in the front of the church, on the raised platform beside the pastor's pulpit stand. The old wooden chair was empty and we (the pew sitters) were all told to "visualize" Jesus in that chair as we sat throught the one hour long service. This was a part of the Henry Blackaby's "Experiencing God" Bible study the church was conducting at the time. In this study Mr. Blackaby recommended this exercise to teach how we should conduct ourselves if we could "see" Jesus with us. So I searched the Scriptures to find the passages where believers are commanded to "visualize" Jesus or seek to hear His audible voice. I could not find any for faith comes by hearing and not by sight. After studying new age practices and philosophies after having a demonic experience (slain or drunk in the spirit complete with seeing bright lights and hearing audible voices) in a charismatic church system, I discovered that all of these practices to try to earn a closeness to God, are in fact of the evil one. I was deceived into believing that my experience was of God, causing tremendous problems in my marriage because I wanted to keep going back to this church system to have "more" of God and experiencing that tremendous peace that accompanied this new age practice. I want to emphasize again, that I was deceived. Just because I "felt" total piece, saw incredible bright colored lights, heard a voice say audibly "I love you," does not mean that this was from God, my Father. This happened in a church building with a pastor leading the cause….he was a divorced man who believed he could hear from God and then pass on "personal words of prophecy" to all who stood before him. I had never experienced this form of church service ever in all of my years growing up in the church system, so this was exciting, exhilerating, and I felt a growing sense of hyper spirituality and elitism because god had chosen me for this experience. Since reading my Bible, meditating on the Scriptures, studying the cross refernces for each passage, and through a life of prayer, God, the Holy Spirit, has become my Teacher in whom I place my trust.

    March 18, 2013 at 3:13 AM Reply
  9. Carol #

    A friend of mine has given me this book in the hopes that it will lead me to Jesus & God. It has done so. It is a review like this which is more inclined to put me off Religion. I think Jesus calling is beautiful and will lead many to the Lord.

    May 1, 2013 at 10:37 PM Reply
    • Rose Doddato #

      Carol, I got saved from reading Norman Vincent Peale's book, Power of Positive Thinking, which is not a book that I would recommend to ANYONE now that I have been a Christian for 30+ years. There was on small bit of truth in that book that changed my life. But there was a whole lot of error in it as well…though I was oblivious to it back then. At the time though, God did use it because there was nothing else in my possession with ANY truth in it. I had no Bible. One small truth from that terrible book kept going around in my mind and finally brought me to my knees. God can use anything when He is ready to save a person. My case proves it. But, all the same, I would never recommend a book like that to others, nor would I recommend this one because, though it may contain some truth, it can also lead people astray into a false gospel. Once a person gets saved, the very best book to read is the Bible. You don't need anything else. I do read Christian books from time to time, but always with a discerning eye…does it line up completely with what the Bible teaches? If it contains error, why continue reading it when I have the Word which is flawless.

      Would I eat a cookie, no matter how delicious it appears to be, if I knew there was a little bit of poison in it? A little bit can still hurt me.

      May 2, 2013 at 6:25 AM Reply
      • I would just say first, AMEN, and second, it wasn't the Norman Vincent Peale book that saved you at all, but only the power of the Holy Spirit. Glad you are here, Rose!

        May 2, 2013 at 7:24 AM Reply
        • Rose Doddato #

          That is exactly right, Amy. It was the Holy Spirit completely and was truly a miracle. Thank you for your kind words.

          May 2, 2013 at 2:35 PM Reply
  10. Karen Velasquez #

    my only real issue with the book is the first person point of view. In her first person writing she is indeed adding to the bible in a way that I stopped feeling comfortable with. This is a tough call. I am director of women's ministries at a large church and we have a big Jesus Calling group. But writing as if you are able to speak for Jesus in a first person way seems somehow to be wrong. I'm struggling with this.

    July 8, 2013 at 2:56 AM Reply
  11. I agree with Karen about using the "first person" point of you. I feel very uncomfortable with that, as well as the introduction describing her "experiences", rather than conviction and repentence leading to salvation. Maybe i am missing something in her testimony…I know a lot of Christians feel very blessed by her book, but I had to put it aside.

    August 12, 2013 at 3:14 AM Reply
  12. Peggy #

    The first time I picked up the book and read from it I felt very uneasy. Of course the concept of Jesus speaking to us and starting our day with loving words from Him is irresistible, because what Jesus loving, born again believer wouldn't want to hear these comforting words from Him? Or for that matter, anyone who may be seeking Him? The mere thought of this could melt my heart. I love Him so much, and when I'm reading Scripture sometimes the love is so great my heart actually burns. But I must say ~ with a heart that I always pray daily, will not be deceived ~ I think that this is a dangerous book. Please hear me out. This Jesus in "Jesus calling" is not the Jesus of the Bible. So, although it may be leading drones of people to Jesus ~ which Jesus are they being lead to? I can't recall the date of this entry, but it begins with, "Let me control your mind." This one literally sent a shiver up my spine. Through Scripture we have the privilege to come to know Jesus in such a precious, personal way. When we pray for the Holy Spirit to teach us and I ask Him, "Please take me to Jesus. I wish to see Jesus…." ~ He will do it. I can never in my wildest dreams, imagine that MY Jesus of Scripture, would say things like, "Whisper my name. Let me control your mind."
    Sorry. I'm not buying it.
    If Sarah Young's writings are authentic, then for heaven's sake~ the bible needs to be reopened and rewritten because this is divine! But if they are not….then it's just a very sweet lie. And the most dangerous lies are the sweet ones.
    Blessings everyone. Please just open your bibles. Jesus is there. The real Jesus.

    October 5, 2013 at 7:53 PM Reply
    • Beckie Peterson #

      I was given this book by a pastor friend and managed to get thru a couple of months of it. It never quite felt right to me. And the more I tried to do it, I even started discussing it with a friend who was reading it as well and it just got harder and harder. it was just stuff that didnt seem Jesus like to me.

      October 22, 2013 at 4:54 PM Reply
  13. Peggy #

    *word correction. Throngs of people, not drones. Sorry about that, it was very late. :)

    October 6, 2013 at 2:07 AM Reply
  14. Hi, I would like to tell you of my experience with God Calling. I bought it thinking it would draw me closer to Jesus Christ. I was even given a copy of it for a Christmas present, but said I already had a copy. I began reading it and there is definitely a "draw" to read it. I became very frustrated and thought, "who is she, that Jesus speaks to her in such a way?" I took the book and threw it in the garbage. This book is not MY JESSUS CHRIST speaking. it is some other voice. The BIBLE is enough for me and through it I get to know and hear the truth. Thanks, Carol.

    October 20, 2013 at 12:01 PM Reply
  15. Peggy #

    2 Timothy 4:3
    "For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths."

    October 23, 2013 at 1:16 AM Reply
  16. Christina #

    I also have been heavily involved in the occult and am very wary of books that may be "false Christ's". Yesterday I realized a book I was very much into was demonic. But the examples were obvious (I just hadn't gotten to those points yet). There are many things that may seem demonic because the enemy is a counterfeiter. For example, after renouncing the occult, I thought all meditation was wrong. But no, the bible tells us to meditate. Eastern religions have twisted mediation. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. I haven't gotten all the way through Jesus Calling, but I know I feel more focused on the peace of Jesus. And for some of us who feel that God is "mad at us" this is a great comfort to remind us to put our trust and faith in Jesus. This is not a book that points to works, or anything outside of grace or faith. It does not take our eyes off of Jesus. It centers squarely on Him.

    October 28, 2013 at 4:18 PM Reply
    • Christina #

      Okay, ignore my post above. I read Steak and Bible's review – yep. I am throwing out the book and the Jesus Calling Bible. I am frustrated at the Christian book publishers and Christian book stores who publish and sell these books! Now I have to go through my whole library!

      October 28, 2013 at 4:26 PM Reply
      • That's wonderful news, Christina! Julia at Steak and Bible wrote this review, and it has been helpful to so many. I want to also alert you to a brand new book releasing in November from Warren B. Smith (former New-Ager), titled: "A Differnt Jesus Calling." We will be interviewing him in a few weeks. Hope you can tune in!
        -Amy

        October 29, 2013 at 2:19 AM Reply
  17. Rebecca #

    I am a Christian, have been since I was 14; now 41. Grew up in a conservative Baptist church and am thankful for it. I have just gone through the most horrific year of my life. More pain than I ever thought I could experience. Had days I could hardly lift my head to look at our precious loving Jesus. Jesus Calling carried messages for me on many days and led me back to my bible on several occasions…. So to those who don't believe we should ask for Jesus to guide our pen or speak to us personally…Does that mean all of those beautiful Christian songs that bring us to our knees and glorifying the Lord, are to be thrown in the garbage and burned as well? For I am pretty certain that before the artist who wrote each of those songs began to write, he or she stopped and asked our precious father, "Please guide my pen with your words".

    November 14, 2013 at 11:05 AM Reply
  18. Rachael #

    So many people I know are just spellbound with the Jesus Calling devotional but from the very first passage I read, I felt a strong sense of rejection. I wasn't sure if it was because it is written in first person or if I was decerning an underlying problem. Now I have confirmation – thank you!

    November 27, 2013 at 12:51 AM Reply
  19. Marie #

    There is one revelation that God, our Father has shown me since becoming His child, having experienced great trials and tribulations at the hands of the religious, and knowing that victory which is found only in our LORD Jesus Christ….and that is this…..

    "If I have to read another book penned by men/women to experience love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control, then I know by the leading of God, the Holy Spirit, and all of these are counterfeit, for the true fruits of the Spirit come only from One source, and that is God, the Father, God, the Son, and God, the Holy Spirit. For not one man has walked this earth sinless and with a pure Holy God Honoring agenda."

    I know from personal experience, for I too have bought many a book seeking answers to life's problems of living, that there is only One who has all the answers, and that is our precious LORD Jesus Christ.

    We are so desperately lacking here in America, for our desires seek men's opinions and words of knowledge above our Holy Scriptures and the flesh goes to great lengths to defend their favorite human icon.

    May God forgive us for what we have become, "a nation of human idolatry."

    November 27, 2013 at 1:58 AM Reply
  20. Obviously the genuine Word of God is irreplaceable but I have found Jesus Calling to be a great compliment. I understand the criticism this book has gotten as it may appear that Sarah Young is in a sense "re-writing" God's Word. However, I do not believe this is the case.

    I believe the author is merely writing what she has learned from reading scripture and prayer. I do not believe that she intends to be speaking for our Lord. The first person tone of Jesus is a unique way to express her thoughts and it should be taken with a grain of salt.

    If anything this book helps remind me that Jesus is with me everyday.

    December 1, 2013 at 8:47 AM Reply
    • Erin #

      How can a demonic-inspired thing be a complement to a holy God's Word? "Jesus calling" is demonic, from cover to cover.

      December 4, 2014 at 12:02 PM Reply
  21. Marie #

    I'll stick to the Bible, the God inspired Word, for my devotional time with Him. He never steers me to the left, nor the right, and is always faithful with His Truth.

    And if I err, then it will be on the side of our Father, Who art in Heaven….and He reminds me that Jesus will never leave me, nor forsake me. Amen.

    December 1, 2013 at 9:49 AM Reply
  22. Tracy Meadows #

    My sister, a New Age believer (all religions lead to the God within, except for Christianity and the need for salvation in Jesus), was given Jesus Calling as a gift from a friend. She loves the book, but has rejected the saving grace of God in Jesus Christ for decades. Her love of this book apart from who Jesus is what led me to seek Christian reviews of this book. Have to agree that she should try the Bible before a devotional book… I am afraid to ask her if she has found salvation, the last time I suggested that we are all sinners in need of salvation, she didn't speak to me for a year.

    January 16, 2014 at 6:52 AM Reply
  23. Vita #

    I have been both a Christian Bookstore employee & owner for 33 years. I read "Jesus
    Calling" every day, & find it very inspiring & helpful, especially with some of my anxiety issues. It also reminds me to "Practice the Presence of God" as Brother Lawrence did, and which I need to do more. I know there are "heresy hunters" out there who criticize the book, but I think they are being overly sensitive. There is NOTHING in "Jesus Calling" that Jesus wouldn't say to us!

    January 25, 2014 at 6:08 AM Reply
    • Cindy McDermott #

      "Jesus Calling" is nothing but demonic channeling, and as a Christian bookstore owner, you should actually take the lead and destroy all copies of this demonic nonsense. Oh, and destroy "brother" Lawrence's mystical, demonic ranting too. Want to read Jesus' words? Read the BIBLE.

      September 30, 2014 at 3:32 AM Reply
  24. Oh dear, Vita. I don't even know where to start. I guess I would ask you to listen to Warren Smith, author of Another Jesus Calling. You ought to be carrying this book in your bookstore. Here is the interview we did with him: http://standupforthetruth.com/2013/11/which-jesus

    This "Jesus" that Sarah Brown writes about is NOTHING like our Lord and Savior. If you have anxiety issues, I would encourage you to find peace through the only means by which we can find it: Through the Jesus of Scripture.

    January 26, 2014 at 10:07 AM Reply
  25. tonibrown64 #

    Wow…I was stunned at the number of people who wrote in support of this book. Just the fact that Young claims to be getting new revelation and secret messages from Jesus Christ should be enough for any Bible believer to trash it right then. Scary times that we live in, folks.
    I would ask that anyone who owns a copy of the book go through page by page and circle the words repentance or repent and then count the number of times she refers to it when finished…. 0.
    I pray that you all will seek the true Christ of scripture so that your eyes will be opened to how very dangerous these writers are- and they are everywhere.
    One note in closing, I could not help noticing that nearly every positive post had one common denominator; their personal "feelings"…..our adversary's favorite weapon.

    September 30, 2014 at 9:54 AM Reply
  26. I'm surprised that more of you out there do not have a personal relationship with Jesus that allows you to hear the voice of Jesus speaking to your heart! That is the sad truth! Quit condemning Sarah. She loves Jesus!

    December 3, 2014 at 7:43 AM Reply
    • standupwi #

      No one is condemning her; just comparing her writing to Scripture -as we are commanded to do.

      December 3, 2014 at 11:56 AM Reply
    • lyn #

      Janet,
      Can I ask you where in Scripture does God speak of a personal relationship and hearing the voice of Jesus speaking to our heart? May we never forget the command not to add to His word, or take from it.

      The Apostle Paul tells sinners to be reconciled {defined as 'to change mutually, compound a difference'}to God {2 Cor. 5:20}; the bible also tells us to ' be not conformed to this age, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind' Romans 12:2. Understand that 'heart' means the mind, the understanding, the thought life…the whole inner man. It's reading, studying, praying over, and meditating on God's word, which Christ calls 'hearing'. The word of God IS the voice of God, it isn't some supernatural voice that speaks out of heaven. It's God the Spirit illuminating truth to God's people. Mysticism has overtaken many who name the name of Christ, and it's not from or of God.

      December 3, 2014 at 12:25 PM Reply
    • Janice #

      We do have a relationship with Jesus; the one revealed to us in the Scriptures, not with the channeled "Ascended Master" of "jesus calling," who contradicts himself and who downplays sin and who promotes universalism and who sounds more like a horny teenager at times. That ain't Jesus; that is an impostor.
      If Sarah loved Jesus, she would know that hers ain't the real "thing." She has had ten years to figure that out. Oh, and what absolute foolishness and supercilious (unfortunately) of her to even suggest that her extra-biblical "revelation" from an unholy spirit should stand next to Scripture. That, Janet, is blasphemy.

      December 3, 2014 at 12:54 PM Reply
    • rosinavoz #

      "Quit condemning Sarah. She loves Jesus! "

      Which Jesus? And…no one is condemning her…just trying to expose the error she is teaching to untold numbers of people reading her channeled New Age book. What she teaches is not Biblical Christianity.

      December 3, 2014 at 6:41 PM Reply
    • Erin #

      Sarah Young and her demonic rantings should be avoided like the plague. It's straight from Satan and his minions.

      December 4, 2014 at 11:37 AM Reply
  27. Peggy Jameson #

    From the lips of Jesus ~
    Matthew 24:23:
    "……Then if anyone says to you, 'Look here is the Christ! or 'There he is! do not believe it. For false Christs' and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you beforehand. So, if they say to you, 'Look he is in the wilderness,' do not go out. If they say, 'Look he is in the inner rooms,' (VERY "Jesus Calling" ~ my comment) do not believe it."

    So there you have it. With all due respect, to everyone pondering this subject….Jesus says "NO."

    December 3, 2014 at 10:44 AM Reply
    • redroksaz #

      So why are you trying to lead believers astray? Every page of this book has included with it scriptures to verify the words she has written. Please show the scriptures she has included, contradict what she (Sarah) has written, if you can? In the meantime, you should take more seriously the words spoken by Jesus. He tells us that He has many more things to say to us and in order for us to know what they are He is sending us the Holy Spirit who will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak, and He will disclose (speak) to us what is to come (the future). (John 16:12-14) The Holy Spirit is still doing this today. He is speaking to those who are listening, and He is telling us what He is hearing and what is to come. To deny He is speaking and to deny we can hear Him speaking is to deny the very words of Christ.

      Isn't it rather interesting that the Holy Spirit hears the voice of the Lord and tells us what He hears? And yet we deny the Lord speaks to us today? This is to deny the Holy Spirit Himself and His ministry to us. This is walking on very scary ground.

      December 4, 2014 at 6:54 PM Reply
  28. Sarah does not claim that her book is scripture….she simply shares what the Lord has laid on her heart. In the same way when we pray for others or help a friend in need, we also share how Jesus has encouraged us through Scripture. The exact word "relationship" is not mentioned to my knowledge, yet Matthew 22: 37 tells us to love the Lord your God with all your heart and all your soul and with all your mind. Can you tell me how you can love someone this deeply and completely without being in a relationship?
    God gave visions and dreams to many people in the Bible that were from God not Satan. For one to have the gift of tongues or visions or dreams, is also not pagan. Acts 2: 17 speaks of Paul addressing a crowd of Jews in which is quoted scripture: "In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams, Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy. "
    Brothers and sisters of Jesus, it seems we are in the last days and if you study Daniel, you will know we are in the church age which is the last days. Is it so hard to believe that the only reason God so loved the world that He gave His only Son to die for us, was that He loves us and wants our love in return? That is called relationship! I was raised Lutheran, have studied Presbytarian, Baptist, Christian, Catholic, Methodist, Assembly of God and now go to a non-denominational church. After studying "religion" have found that simply studying the Bible is all the Truth I need. Read it daily, take it for Truth, all of it, and apply it to our lives and follow Jesus. I believe that is also what Sarah is doing according to how the Holy Spirit is leading her. No where does she encourage anyone to follow Satan, nor does she. If this book is so evil, it is not working out so well for Satan, because I have seen it encourage many, many people to follow Jesus. I have yet to meet someone who turned to Satan because of it.
    The second part of the above scripture, is love your neighbor as yourself. That includes Sarah, and in the undertones of some of these comments, there is not love. God bless you all!

    December 3, 2014 at 1:25 PM Reply
    • rosinavoz #

      Janet said: No where does she encourage anyone to follow Satan, nor does she. If this book is so evil, it is not working out so well for Satan, because I have seen it encourage many, many people to follow Jesus. I have yet to meet someone who turned to Satan because of it.

      Again I ask you, which Jesus is she encouraging 'many, many people to follow'? How do you know it is not working out well for Satan…that people are not being deceived by a false Jesus…one that cannot save them? We are warned over and over again in scriptures that in the last days many will be deceived into following false christs. Deceived people do not even realize that they have 'turned to Satan' because he has tricked them. Jesus told us in the end times the deception would be so strong that, if it were possible, even the very elect could be led astray. Doesn't that make you want to test everything people teach in the name of Christ against His Word with a fine toothed comb? Especially their subjective experiences?

      I don't know where I read this today…perhaps here, but it sure bears repeating:

      "Discernment is not knowing the difference between right and wrong. It is knowing the difference between right and almost right. " Charles Spurgeon

      What she is teaching might sound right, nice, encouraging, uplifting…but it is God's truth…or a counterfeit seductively packaged for the undiscerning?

      "…love your neighbor as yourself. That includes Sarah, and in the undertones of some of these comments, there is not love."

      I see no unloving undertones here…just heartfelt concern about the people she is leading astray from the true gospel. There is no condemnation of her personally. She is probably a very sincere person, but sincerity, outward appearances, and subjective experiences, feelings are not the test of whether she teaches biblical truth.

      December 3, 2014 at 9:44 PM Reply
    • lyn #

      Young writes that “One morning as I prayed, I visualized God protecting each of us. I pictured first our daughter, then our son, and then Steve encircles by God’s protective Presence, which looked like golden light. When I prayed for myself, I was suddenly enveloped in brilliant light and profound peace…”

      And just because she says so, we are to believe this is true? Not. What exactly is a 'protective presence which looked like a golden light'? Where can I find this in His word? This is all new age, mysticism! How many are chasing after an experience, a feeling, an emotion! That's not taught anywhere in the Bible. I encourage you to educate yourself on ancient eastern mysticism and it's practices. Then, look deeply into the truth – the word of God. Cry out for wisdom, understanding and discernment. You have no idea how spiritually dangerous these times in which we live are! STOP READING books penned by men and women, and stick solely to His word. You will NOT be misled if you are born from above by His Spirit. Simply professing to believe in Jesus does not mean you are a follower of Christ, for 'ye must be born again'.

      December 4, 2014 at 10:57 AM Reply
      • standupwi #

        Young offers absolutely no way to "test the spirits," as Scripture commands that we do.

        December 4, 2014 at 11:26 AM Reply
        • lyn #

          Amen – that is very telling and should be a 'red flag' for those who are discerning.

          December 4, 2014 at 12:00 PM Reply
      • Peggy Jameson #

        Amen and Amen. What I think that some of the dear people writing in and defending Sarah Young must realize is this….that those of us who see this "Jesus," of Jesus Calling ~ as a deceptive spirit, only want to warn other believers that there is a very real danger in running after this "Jesus." Please hear me on this, NO ONE is trying to condemn Sarah Young. She was a victim of deception.

        There is a certain element of "flattering lips" in his speech and for that matter, he's a complainer. Unless you've actually taken the time to listen to the interview with Warren Smith, (which Stand up for the Truth provided the link to), you may not have zeroed in on some of the audacious comments by this counterfeiter. Please consider the entry of December 25th. The counterfeiter complains of the filthy conditions of the stable and that it was a "dark" night for him. Warren Smith points out that that was actually a very dark night for Satan. When the "Light of the world" (JESUS) enters our time space capsule ~ He shatters the darkness!! How could he possibly say that it was a dark night for him? Was he trying to gain our sympathy? Our Lord would never speak like this.

        I would have to suggest that some the people who are vehemently defending the Jesus of "Jesus Calling" may be deceived on a more dangerous level than they imagine. My very dear friend was uncharacteristically sarcastic and angry with me that I would even suggest that it was not our precious Savior speaking in this book. She slept with the book on her bed because she was going through a very painful transition in her life, and she wanted it to be nearby. I prayed that God would open her eyes to the truth…and praise God, He did! She took the time to listen to the interview, and I believe mainly because of a lot of prayer…and pointing out certain discrepancies in his character, the allegiance to this "jesus" was revealed and broken. She was then appalled by it's deception.

        I realize this is long but….the point of this is, why would we, as followers of Jesus Christ, allow another spirit to dabble in our beautiful relationship with Him? It's like allowing a third party into the bedroom of our sacred marriage. Wouldn't Satan just love that?

        December 4, 2014 at 2:06 PM Reply
        • redroksaz #

          How dare we imagine that a manger with animals would not be very nice, even filthy? I have to assume you have not been around farm animals.

          To say it could be a dark night for Jesus?…The words Sarah Young writes leading up to this one line you and Smith wish to focus on will bring the words "dark night" into proper focus… "I set aside My Glory, so that I could identify with mankind."…"Even though the angels lit up the sky proclaiming Glory! to awe-struck shepherds."

          If you read the words of the early church Fathers as well as follow the scriptures properly, Satan had no idea the Messiah was born that night. It took the wise men from the east, two years later, to give Satan a "heads up" that someone of great importance had been born. He wasn't even sure when he tempted Jesus in the desert if this was the One who would crush his head.

          Pay attention to the scripture references that are listed for the December 25 entry. To listen to Smith as your reference is a mistake. To believe that this book is not being used to change lives is even a bigger mistake. Personally know couples who refused to go to church anymore, where the wives have read this book and come back to the Lord and began reading their Bibles and have sent us questions regarding scriptures. To accuse Sarah Young to be channeling spirits is truly a travesty as people are thinking they have been listening to demons. It will be better for you to have a weight around your neck and tossed into the water, per Jesus.

          December 4, 2014 at 7:30 PM Reply
          • Peggy Jameson #

            This will be my final comment on the subject. I do know this …. the Holy Spirit is grieved when we, the children of God disagree to the point of arguing. So let's just agree that we will get the final word from Jesus on The Great Day, as to whether or not He spoke personally to Sarah Young. So until that day Redroksaz, peace to you my friend.

            December 5, 2014 at 11:37 PM
        • rosinavoz #

          Sorry Peggy. I meant to vote you up and clicked on the wrong thumb. Good comment and I am so glad your friend finally saw the truth. She is blessed to have you as a friend …a faithful friend who continued to speak the truth in love and pray for her even when she was unkind to you. Way to go!

          December 4, 2014 at 9:05 PM Reply
      • redroksaz #

        John was surrounded by seven golden lampstands, a golden girdle and burnished bronze feet and eyes like a flame of fire and His face like the sun shining in its strength. ( Revelation 1:12-16)

        December 4, 2014 at 2:49 PM Reply
  29. redroksaz #

    Occult practices? Really. The occult may imitate, but that does not mean the Lord cannot arise and shine and make His voice heard.

    1) Ezekiel was surrounded by fire and brilliant light and heard a voice (Ezekiel 1:4-28)
    2) Paul was surrounded by a light and heard a voice. (Acts 9:3-4)
    3) John was surrounded by light (golden lampstands, eyes like a flame of fire, feet as bronze that glow in a
    furnace), and he heard a voice "like the sound of a trumpet." (Revelation 1:9-20)

    Were Ezekiel, Paul and John just imagining these things into existence? Were they practicing witchcraft?

    You are resplendent with light, more majestic than mountains rich with game (Psalm 76:4).

    He wraps himself in light as with a garment; he stretches out the heavens like a tent (Psalm 104:2).

    He reveals deep and hidden things; he knows what lies in darkness, and light dwells with him (Daniel 2:2

    the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever (Revelation 22:5).

    “Arise, shine, for your light has come, and the glory of the Lord rises upon you (Isaiah 60:1).

    for the Lord will be your everlasting light, and your God will be your glory (Isaiah 60:19).

    Jesus Christ is the Same yesterday and today, yes and forever. (Hebrews 13:8)

    He will bring me out into the light; I will see his righteousness (Micah 7:8-9).

    the man who walks in the dark does not know where he is going. Put your trust in the light (John 12:35)

    Put your trust in the light while you have it, so that you may become sons of light..I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness (John 12: 36,46).

    Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today, yes and forever. (Hebrews 13: 8)

    December 4, 2014 at 2:40 PM Reply
    • standupwi #

      The Lord HAS made His voice heard. Canon is closed. We don't need to add to any more books of the Bible. If a voice is talking to Sarah Young, that is not for Church, nor is it for others to glean from to hear what Jesus is saying. He has spoken.

      December 4, 2014 at 3:12 PM Reply
      • redroksaz #

        But, this article is making the claim that "visualization is a popular occult practice." I am addressing that claim by proof that seeing light, fire and hearing a voice is very scriptural. Now you are shifting your argument from this claim (from the above article), to a entirely different argument. So I must assume the real reason you speak against the book is that you do not believe we can hear the voice of God anymore as before? God has gone silent? If this is your true motivation, then spend your time proving this is "true" instead of spending so much time trying to convince she is involved in the occult. I have already shown fire, light and hearing His voice is involved with the very writing of our scriptures, so the occult is nothing more than an imitator. So canon is close, His voice is silent…this is now your argument?

        December 4, 2014 at 4:29 PM Reply
  30. redroksaz #

    Please provide scriptures that say He no longer speaks to His people after the canon of scripture? Jesus makes it clear that the ministry of the Holy Spirit that He would send to all believers throughout all time would be " whatever He hears He will speak, and He will disclose (speak) to you what is to come (future events)." (John 16:14) The Holy Spirit is to speak to the believers and reveal to them what He hears at that moment. Jesus further states "I have more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them NOW." (John 16:12)

    "My sheep hear (akouo) My voice." (John 10:27)…the word for 'hear' is the root word for acoustics. The meaning of acoustics is "ready to hear" or "I hear."

    Acoustics deal strictly with sound. The better the acoustics, the more clear the sound waves will be. God has shofars (trumpets) sound in order for the people to hear what needs to be proclaimed. God is very involved with sound.

    Study what an anechoic chamber is. What is a "sound reinforcement system"? Jesus says very plainly, My voice has sound (acoustics) and it can be heard, and My sheep do indeed hear (akouo) My voice.

    December 4, 2014 at 3:52 PM Reply
    • lyn #

      The written word of God is ALL we need, as is made quite clear in 2 Timothy 3:16-17, "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."
      Notice the word 'scripture', it's from the Greek word 'graphe' and is defined by Strong's Greek Dictionary as 'a document'; Thayer's Greek definitions defines it as '1) a writing, thing written 2) the Scripture, used to denote either the book itself, or its contents'. If we needed extra biblical revelation, this verse would not be in the bible. What is the purpose of the written word? It is profitable for teaching/instruction/learning. The word of God is what the Holy Spirit uses to work in the heart of God's people, to refine, purify, and grow in Christ-likeness.
      What else does the word of God do? It is used for reproof, meaning 'conviction' – it exposes sin and error.
      It's also used for correction, or 'setting right' – It sets one straight.
      For instruction in righteousness – training the child of God to live righteously as is found in His written word.
      What is the end result of all this? 'That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works'. Not once in that text do we see any reference to an audible voice.

      December 5, 2014 at 1:16 AM Reply
  31. lyn #

    How do the sheep hear? By extra biblical revelation, or by the Spirit of God taking the written word and illuminating it in the minds of God's true sheep? Not everyone who reads the Bible has understanding, for the ears and eyes must be opened by God, and understanding must be given as well. That is the context of John 10:27, those who hear, which also means 'understand'. Here is Strong's definition, 'A primary verb; to hear (in various senses): – give (in the) audience (of), come (to the ears), ([shall]) hear (-er, -ken), be noised, be reported, understand.' You determine the definition by the context of the text. This is figurative language.
    What do they hear? His voice, which means 'saying or language'. It doesn't imply an audible voice that speaks extra biblical revelation at all. The word of God IS the voice of God, which is what Christ was referring to {see John 1}. It's along the same lines of Proverbs 23:12, ' Apply thine heart unto instruction, and thine ears to the words of knowledge.' To hear is to have biblical truth imparted to Christ's sheep by God the Spirit.
    one more thing, the 'hearing' is a continual action. In the original Greek, it is 'is hearing', meaning a continual ongoing action. Christ's sheep are always hearing/understanding His voice/written word. As we study our bibles, we are hearing/understanding His truth. We apply what we hear/understand to our lives daily, we also are 'transformed in the renewing of our minds' by this hearing/understanding {Romans 12:2}. This is how we are 'conformed to His image' {Romans 8:29}. It's the word of God at work in the people of God, who are taught by the Spirit of God.

    December 5, 2014 at 1:19 AM Reply
    • redroksaz #

      Extra-biblical is not a part of the discussion. Hearing His voice is. Jesus makes it very plain and simple that if you are His sheep, then you hear His voice.

      Regarding John 10:27…
      The Greek word for "voice" is "phone" (interesting don't you think), Strong's 5456~"sound, noise, dialect"
      Just a few of the scriptures where "phone" is used and is exactly connected to sound: ( Matthew 2:18; Matthew 3:3; Matthew 3:17; Matthew 22:46; Mark 1:11; Mark 5:7; Mark 5:7; Mark 15:37; Luke 4:33; Luke 9:36; Luke 11:27; Luke 17:15; Luke 19:37) Jesus said by two or three witnesses to confirm a matter.

      Regarding the Greek word for "hear" which is "akouo" , Strong's 191~"hear, listen, listen (figuratively)"
      Just a sample of scriptures it is used in: (Matthew 2:9; Matthew 4:12; Matthew 5:38; Matthew 7:24; Matthew 8:10; Matthew 10:27) The root word for acoustics. Hardly a word connected to "understand".

      "What I whisper in your ears, shout it from the rooftops" (Matthew 10:27) The Word of God implies making His voice heard. Take time to read about all the appointed times God calls for trumpets to be blown.

      As far as extra biblical is concerned, even Paul uses extra-biblical sources. Are you familiar with Ezra and Nehemiah? Ezra and Nehemiah had to re- write the ancient texts by "listening" and "hearing" the voice of God after returning from Babylon. Truly amazing.

      Of course we have the Holy Spirit that teaches us and reveals His truths from His Word to us. There is no doubt. There is coming a time, if we have not developed the "acoustics" to "phone" His voice, we are going to be in trouble. There is a time coming where we may not have a Bible to read. We better develop our spiritual acoustics while there is time. Take some time to truly learn about the sons/tribe of Issachar.

      December 9, 2014 at 12:34 AM Reply
      • lyn #

        again, you completely miss it. Let's go back –
        What you listed – 'phone' – isn't a definition, rather it's a Greek transliteration. It's pronounced (fo-nay').
        The definition is 'a sound, noise, voice, language, dialect.' You conveniently left out 'language' in your definition. {Source- http://biblehub.com/greek/5456.htm } This in no way implies an audible voice or extra biblical revelation. To state such is to practice eisegesis, which means adding to or taking from.

        As for hear, you do not give the complete definition for that as well, you only include 'hear, listen'. It also lists 'comprehend by hearing' which means 'understand' {source http://biblehub.com/greek/191.htm}
        Here is the outline of biblical usage of 'hear' –
        to be endowed with the faculty of hearing, not deaf
        to hear
        to attend to, consider what is or has been said
        to understand, perceive the sense of what is said
        to hear something
        to perceive by the ear what is announced in one's presence
        to get by hearing learn
        a thing comes to one's ears, to find out, learn
        to give ear to a teaching or a teacher
        to comprehend, to understand – {source http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexic… }

        When Christ says His sheep hear His voice, He is not suggesting an actual audible voice that speaks extra biblical revelation. If that were so, why would we need the Bible? Why not just use the audible voice to instruct? Historical Christianity proves you to be wrong, as Bible scholars commentary proves – from theologian John Gill concerning 'My sheep hear my voice',…. "The voice of Christ in his Gospel, both externally and internally". From Albert Barnes, " Applied to Christians, it means that they hear and obey his commandments." Lastly, from Matthew Henry, "They discern it, It is the voice of my beloved, {Son_2:8}. They delight in it, are in their element when they are sitting at his feet to hear his word."
        When studying the Bible, context is everything. To hear is to perceive, understand, comprehend Christ's 'voice' which is His commandments found in Holy Writ. Learn to dissect the literal from that which is figurative in language.
        As for Matthew 10:27, " that which I tell you in the darkness, speak in the light, and that which you hear at the ear, proclaim on the house-tops" {YLT} this is figurative language. What they'd been taught by Christ they must now go forth and proclaim to a lost and dying world. They must faithfully preach the Gospel – how you can connect this to some appointed trumpet times is baffling. Even when checking the cross-references for that text, none point back to any Old Testament verses dealing with appointed seasons and trumpets. You are twisting the word of God to fit your own theology, insisting God uses an audible voice outside Holy Writ. Your theology is disproved when one reads the verses in context using the accurate definitions.
        I don't find any scriptural support that states a time is coming when we will no longer have bibles; even so, scripture memorization is a good practice to get into.

        How do you know you are a child of God? What is your understanding of salvation?

        December 9, 2014 at 8:28 AM Reply
        • redroksaz #

          Please verify the scriptures I listed…they are clearly referring to sound that can be heard by a spoken voice. Please point out any scriptures I listed that say otherwise and we will discuss.

          The word is properly spelled "phone". Pronounced fonay', okay, fine…I do not write in phonics. You cannot "akouo" (hear) what I am writing. Did you choose to ignore the three words I conveniently listed for you (sound, noise, dialect)? Also, according to Merriam-Webster, the meaning of the word "language" is :
          a : the words, their pronunciation, and the methods of combining them used and understood by a community
          b (1) : audible, articulate, meaningful sound as produced by the action of the vocal organs (2) : a systematic means of communicating ideas or feelings by the use of conventionalized signs, sounds, gestures, or marks having understood meanings.

          Language is indeed an audible experience according to Merriam-Webster. Language is both written and verbal and this is exactly what John Gill is referring to when he states the voice of Christ is both "external and internal."

          If we read the verses proceeding Matthew 10:27, Jesus moves the discourse away from the present day to the end of days and this is obvious when we read verses 22 thru 24. Relevant to our discussion is the statement Jesus makes in verse 20. Please Notice Verse 20….Here is a scriptural basis for having nothing to read (i.e. Bible)…Jesus tells them (us) they will be brought before the authorities and "it is not you who will speak, but it is the Spirit of your father who speaks in you."
          It is still regarding the end of days when Jesus tells them" Nothing will remain covered that will not be revealed, and Hidden that will not be known"…Jesus is not referring to what the disciples have been taught, He is discussing the end of days. Then He continues by saying to those alive at that time, that what secrets He whispers in your ears, to shout it upon the housetops, making reference to the previous verse (v.26) that nothing will remain covered or hidden, that will not be revealed or made known.

          What Jesus is saying is the same as what Daniel spoke about…He was told by the angel to seal up some of the things he heard until it was time for them to be revealed at the end of days. "And as for you Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book until the end of time…Go your way Daniel, for these words are concealed and sealed up until the end time." (Daniel 12:3-4,9) This is exactly what Jesus is referring to in Matthew 10:26-27.

          Yes, indeed…God's voice (foney'!) can be both internal as well as external. We need to develop our hearing (acoustics) to be able to hear both.

          There are three angels with "loud voices" who are going to be heard by the entire world. One is even going to preach the gospel with a loud voice. (Revelation 14:6-9)

          The two witnesses are going to prophesy for 1260 days. (Revelation 11:3)

          My referencing trumpets was my way of trying to show you God is not a silent God. He wants to make sure He gets our attention. He uses sound such as trumpets throughout scripture.

          December 9, 2014 at 3:02 PM Reply
          • lyn #

            No they do not refer to an audible voice at all. As I stated, there are multiple definitions for 'hear' and 'voice'. The context determines the definition.
            the book of Acts records Saul's conversion, Act 9:7 'And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.' So, did these men hear the voice of Christ? Was it audible words they heard? Go on to Acts 22:9 ' And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.' What's my point? Simply this, what they heard was a 'noise' which frightened them, they did not understand the noise they heard. So, when you indicate 'hear' means audible – not always. Again, context is key.
            Language is external and internal, the external reading of the word and the Spirit of God illuminating that truth internally in the mind. That's why I mentioned 'understanding' on another thread. Many hear, but as the parable of the soils teach, not all who hear understand. You must have ears to hear, which comes from God as He imparts truth through His word and His Spirit.

            As for the other verses you give, you seem to be headed down multiple rabbit trails. You are the one who stated John 10:27 means the sheep hear and audible voice, which isn't so. As for angels preaching the Gospel in the end times, what does that have to do with John 10:27? Or any of your other end-time verses you brought up? You've veered way off course.

            I see you didn't address my final question, so I'll present it again, How do you know you are a child of God? What is your understanding of salvation?

            December 9, 2014 at 11:15 PM
          • redroksaz #

            Your interpretation of John 10:27 is your opinion, not mine….the Greek words involve much more than an "internal illumination."

            Multiple rabbit trails….The Word says by two or three witnesses a matter is to be confirmed. I supplied you with numerous scriptures where the same Greek words are used for "hear" and "voice". Theses scriptures clearly reveal these two words mean a physical and external event. As used in all the scriptures I supplied (my rabbit trails), both words are implying more than a internal illumination.

            Angel preaching the gospel (with a loud voice)…God using trumpets (voice of God)….these are examples of God making His voice heard. Is this not the conversation? God is a God of internal and external "acoustics." If you do not think He wants to make His "acoustics" heard, then read Psalm 150. Let everything that has breath (trumpets, lyre,timbrels, cymbals, etc.) But we argue He does not want us to hear Him? But He wants to hear us with loud noises? We can make our "voices" heard but He doesn't? Really?

            However, please note…..it is not my calling to convince anybody that God still speaks to His people in all the same ways we read about in His Word. His Spirit communicates with our spirit, sometimes that involves a voice that is more audible than other times.

            You used the word "illuminating"…this is a new age word and is not found in the Bible as far as I can tell. You accuse Sarah Young of using words that indicate she is channeling demons. The word illumination implies an enlightenment as connected to all the new age beliefs. You can enjoy your "illumination", I will "akouo" the "phone" of my Shepherd.

            I am glad you want to know how you can become a child of God. My best suggestion for you or anyone is to find a Bible and do what Romans 10:9-10 tells us to do. "For whoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." (Romans 10:13)

            Interesting….God tells us to "confess with our mouths"….He wants to "akouo" (hear) us with our voices (phone).

            Maybe God just wants us to think about and let Him illuminate upon our thoughts that Jesus is Lord. He couldn't possibly mean to say 'Jesus is Lord" with an audible voice?

            However, I digress….it is not my calling to convince you His voice (yesterday, today and tomorrow) is both internal as well as external. Listen however you wish to hear. And let others hear Him as well, whether you agree or not, it is not unbiblical. You have seen and admitted the words "akouo" and "phone" mean both internal and external. This discussion has nothing to do with extra-biblical. It has to do with how He speaks to us.

            December 10, 2014 at 2:53 PM
      • lyn #

        You contradict yourself, first you say "Please provide scriptures that say He no longer speaks to His people after the canon of scripture?" Then, you state "Extra-biblical is not a part of the discussion. Hearing His voice is."
        The gist of your argument is you claim we hear an audible voice that is God's, and you use Scripture, albeit out of context, to prove your point. Who hears? Christ's sheep.

        Let's look at another example of hearing Christ's voice..
        The account of Christ appearing to His disciples in Luke 24, particularly verse 44, "And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me." They are hearing the audible voice of Christ, but something is missing. They are NOT comprehending/understanding what He's talking about. Go down one more verse, "Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures". Here we have a picture of what it means to 'hear His voice' thus, being a 'sheep'. Many read God's word and have no understanding of what they are reading, have you read of the eunuch who was reading from the prophet Isaiah? "and Philip having run near, heard him reading the prophet Isaiah, and said, `Dost thou then know what thou dost read?' and he said, `Why, how am I able, if some one may not guide me?' he called Philip also, having come up, to sit with him. Acts 8:30-31 The eunuch was 'hearing', that is, he was reading the Scriptures, but he wasn't understanding what he'd read. God sent Philip to open up the Scriptures to him. Why didn't God just speak to the eunuch from heaven, using His audible voice? Because He speaks through His written, divinely inspired word.

        Look at the parable of the soils, ' Every one hearing the word of the reign, and not understanding–the evil one doth come, and doth catch that which hath been sown in his heart; this is that sown by the way.' Matthew 13:19 Here we have those who 'hear' yet do not understand, these are not sheep – even though they 'hear'. What is it they hear? The 'word', the Gospel message. Why do they not understand? After all, they 'heard' right? The understanding must be opened along with the hearing – this is what separates the sheep from the goats. The sheep hear and understand, the goats hear and do not comprehend what they've heard. Again, hearing does not mean 'audible voice', as these texts prove.

        From Matthew 15:16, 'And Jesus said, `Are ye also yet without understanding?' He's talking to His disciples, who actually were hearing His audible voice, and yet, they did not comprehend what was being said. Hearing in and of itself does not make one a sheep, nor does it refer to audible sounds only. There must be an understanding, a comprehension of God's word by His sheep – in order to be a sheep. This is why God instructs, from His word, in Proverbs 2:2-5 'So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God.' Here we have a picture of 'hearing' as well as understanding; to hear and understand is to be a 'sheep'. We must seek wisdom and understanding found in His word, not chasing after some audible voice that others teach but cannot be supported by Scripture.

        December 9, 2014 at 9:23 AM Reply
  32. redroksaz #

    It is obvious you did not research your question. The fact of the matter is that both the words "repent" and "forgiveness" can be found in several entries. However, because you decided to make a blank statement without researching your question beforehand, I will let you go through the book in order to find the answer(s) to your question.

    In the meantime, consider this…out of 13 letters attributed to Paul, only 2 Corinthians, 2 Timothy and Romans have included either the words repentance or repent.

    So, maybe we should consider Paul as having received secret messages as well? According to your criteria regarding Sarah Young, Paul falls into the same category.

    December 9, 2014 at 4:59 PM Reply

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