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Jay Seegert

The Starting Point Project

Jay is the Keynote Speaker and Managing Director for The Starting Point Project. Over the past 29 years, Jay has spoken in numerous churches, conferences, secular schools, Christian schools, universities and various other venues, with audiences ranging from 50 to over 5,000. Learn more


Everyone is fascinated with dinosaurs.  The Jurassic Park movies have been seen by almost everyone and museum exhibits of dinosaur replicas or excavated dinosaur bones draw millions of people every year. We are told the bones are millions of years old and apparently so is the earth. Is this true?

But most people only know what they do about dinosaurs from what they have seen in fiction movies, atheist scientists, or by watching National Geographic, The History Channel, etc. If we don’t know by now, these networks as well as other publications will not give the true biblical account.

How can we use the fascination with dinosaurs to open the door for sharing the gospel?  What were the dinosaurs really like and when did they disappear?  Jay Seegert of The Starting Point Project joins us this morning.

In our third segment, we clarify our ministry stance as well as any misunderstandings on our legal challenge to the city of De Pere, Wisconsin on the so-called non-discrimination (transgender, LGBTQ) ordinance passed by the city council.



discussed in segment 3


Churches Seek Exemption from Wisconsin City Ordinance to Protect Right to Hire in Accordance with Faith

DE PERE, Wisc. — Five churches and a Christian radio station have filed suit in an effort to obtain an exemption from a Wisconsin city ordinance that they believe might prohibit them from declining to hire a candidate for employment because of their lifestyle choices, such as homosexuality and transgenderism.

In November 2017, the city council of De Pere passed an ordinance that prohibits employers and businesses from discriminating against a person based on their so-called “gender identity” and “sexual orientation.”

…As the statute does not include any language exempting religious nonprofits from the requirement, and as city officials reportedly have not provided any assurances that religious groups will not be affected, a number of churches have been concerned about how the ordinance might be enforced.

Lakeshore remarked in a statement published by the Green Bay Press Gazette that the De Pere ordinance is “so broadly written that it would undermine constitutionally protected rights of churches and religious organizations to conduct their affairs in a manner consistent with our biblical mandates and principles.”

“We appealed to the De Pere City Council to take some time, consult with legal experts, and rewrite the ordinance in a way that would provide constitutionally protected rights of churches and religious organizations. They disregarded our appeal, passing the bill with Mayor Mike Walsh casting the tie-breaking vote for the ordinance,” it lamented.

“[W]e believe in freedom of religion, and we are surprised that the city council has refused to remember the churches, with all of the social issues out there. This is a state intrusion into the Church. It violates the Constitution of the United States, which says there should be free exercise of religion,” also remarked Jerry Lewin, the pastor of Crosspoint Church. More…